Who Kendrick Perkins believes has ‘edge' between Warriors, Lakers in 2025-26

Who Kendrick Perkins believes has ‘edge' between Warriors, Lakers in 2025-26 originally appeared on NBC Sports Bay Area

Another season of NBA basketball means another season of Kendrick Perkins’ hot takes.

The former player and current ESPN studio analyst began in earnest on Sunday’s episode of “NBA Countdown,” when he claimed he still views the Los Angeles Lakers as a better team than the Warriors entering the 2025-26 NBA season.

“Both of these teams are going to be here come April,” Perkins said in the minutes leading up to the Warriors’ preseason matchup against the Lakers on Sunday. “Both of these teams are going to be in the postseason. I give the Lakers a slight edge because they have a third option offensively in Austin Reaves.”

That third scoring option is a sticking point for Perkins, who wondered aloud whether Golden State has the same offensive depth as the Lakers.

“We don’t know who the third option is for the Golden State Warriors,” Perkins said. “Is that going to be [Jonathan] Kuminga? Are they going to rely on Buddy Hield? That’s the question.”

The Warriors appeared to operate just fine without a clear-cut third scorer at the end of the 2024-25 season, compiling a 23-8 record when Stephen Curry, Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green all saw the court. But Perkins is skeptical over whether that’s enough given Golden State’s title aspirations.

“The 23-8 [record] got them out in the second round,” Perkins said, referencing the Warriors’ semifinal series loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves last season. “They’re trying to win the championship. Mind you, Steph [Curry] got injured, I get that part. But we don’t know if they could’ve got past [the Oklahoma City Thunder] with that roster that they had.”

Despite Butler only playing 30 regular-season games with the Warriors last season, Golden State finished just two games behind the Lakers in the Western Conference standings. A full season of Butler figures to go a long way towards making Perkins eat his own words.

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Al Horford experiencing easy Warriors transition with ‘terrifying' Steph Curry

Al Horford experiencing easy Warriors transition with ‘terrifying' Steph Curry originally appeared on NBC Sports Bay Area

SAN FRANCISCO – The first game of any NBA team’s preseason schedule can bring heavy legs from an intense week of training camp, and rust still needing to be scraped off. The Warriors’ oldest player didn’t appear to have any issues in either category. 

Al Horford, 39 years old, was sharp and spry in the Warriors’ 111-103 win against the Los Angeles Lakers on Sunday at Chase Center. And he fit like a glove on his new team after spending the last four years with the Boston Celtics. 

Coach Steve Kerr was effusive in his praise of Horford after the win, and those same sentiments remained after reviewing the film. 

“Al just never seems to make a mistake,” Kerr said Tuesday after practice. “He just brings everything you want. There’s size and athleticism, and shooting ability and passing. He makes the game really easy for everybody.” 

Entering his 19th year as a pro, Horford isn’t as easy on himself as his new coach and teammates have been. But even he could acknowledge what everybody saw. The transition from the Celtics’ system to the way the Warriors operate was as smooth as anybody could have hoped. 

“In my eyes, I’m very hard on myself. It was good. I know there’s definitely ways that I can continue to be better,” Horford said Tuesday. “But they make it so easy for guys to come in here and fit in with the group and what we’re trying to do. Draymond [Green], Steph [Curry] and obviously coach putting us in positions to kind of go out there and play and feel the game out. 

“It has been an easy transition. For me, I’m obviously still getting comfortable and familiar with everything. But I am encouraged after that first game, some of the things that I saw, and some of the things that I know that we will all continue to get better at.” 

The expectation upon Horford’s signing was that he’d be the Warriors’ new starting center. Kerr instead stuck with the same group that was so successful in the second half last season and brought Horford off the bench to begin the preseason. Without scoring a point, Horford quickly showcased the kind of impact he can have on the Warriors once he first entered the game. 

Horford played just under nine minutes in the first quarter after sitting for the first three minutes, and was a plus-four as the Warriors held a one-point lead. In that first run of his, Horford already grabbed two rebounds, dished two assists, blocked two shots and had a steal. The most notable was how he quickly found Curry for two points. 

About a minute and a half after taking his warmup gear off, Horford ran the floor alongside Curry and wound up in the left corner. Curry gave Horford the ball but found it back in his hands a split second later as he cut behind Dalton Knecht and finished a nifty layup that also sent him to the free-throw line. 

Curry after the game said he already feels an “unspoken chemistry” sharing the floor with Horford

“It’s a level of awareness that I’ve never really had to think about before like that,” Horford said of Curry’s constant movement. 

Plenty of players, even the best of the best like Kevin Durant, have needed extra time to get used to understanding Curry’s uniqueness. Horford is looking at it in the simplest ways he can. 

“When I’m on the floor with him, the whole mindset is trying to make the game easier for him. For me, that is either getting him the ball or setting a good screen or doing anything that I can to make sure that our offense just kind of moves and flows,” Horford said. 

“He’s such a smart player that it’s easy to play off of him. And sometimes he’ll kind of tell you what to do. When he passed me that ball, you know he’s going to cut, so I guess that’s the unspoken stuff right there.” 

The variety of combinations Kerr can use with Horford is another bonus at his disposal. Horford, 6-foot-9, will play both frontcourt positions. He’s seen more as a center but will see time at power forward, too. 

That wrinkle was seen in the second quarter when Horford slid down to the 4 and 7-footer Quinten Post was the 5 next to him. They played the final five minutes of the second quarter together, and the Warriors outscored the Lakers 16-7. 

“He obviously brings that versatility, both offensively and defensively,” Post said. “I like playing with him. We’ve been having a lot of talk, trying to pick his brain. … He’s just a guy that you can plug into any system, any defensive scheme.” 

Stats didn’t need to jump off the page to understand what a seamless addition Horford is, though the numbers spoke for themselves. Horford was a plus-13 in 14 minutes off the bench with three points, four rebounds, three assists, three blocked shots and one assist.

Like so many others before him, Horford also sure was happy to go from being Curry’s opponent to immediately relishing in the riches of being his teammate.

“He just does such a good job of terrifying everybody in the league every time he moves, so that’s something I’m going to take advantage of,” Horford said. 

Games don’t even count yet and the rest of the league already is on notice for a new duo that can make any arena a house of horrors.

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Michael Malone calls Al Horford joining Warriors a ‘match made in heaven'

Michael Malone calls Al Horford joining Warriors a ‘match made in heaven' originally appeared on NBC Sports Bay Area

One of Steve Kerr’s peers has placed his stamp of approval on Al Horford’s fit with the Warriors.

Former NBA coach and current ESPN analyst Michael Malone, who led the Denver Nuggets to their first championship in 2023, described in a segment for the network’s “NBA Countdown” how Horford’s addition could transform Golden State’s offense this season.

“They’ve added a proficient 3-point shooting big man,” Malone said. “Champion, high character, culture— they haven’t had this spacing, 1 through 5, in a long time.”

Horford’s ability to shoot from long distance is expected to make opponents pay for selling out on Stephen Curry and other Warriors playmakers. The 39-year-old center shot over 40 percent from 3-point range in his final three seasons with the Boston Celtics.

“The number of wide-open shots that he’s going to get is going to spread out their offense and make a really tough offensive team to guard even that much harder,” Malone said.

It isn’t just Horford’s range that has Malone so optimistic, however. In the 2024-25 NBA season, the Warriors ran just 10 total pick-and-roll plays involving Curry and a center. Their new acquisition, Horford, has tallied the sixth-most pick-and-pop shots of any player over the last 10 seasons.

“Steve Kerr, historically, has not been a big pick-and-roll coach,” Malone observed. “They haven’t had maybe the players…now, you’re adding a guy [in] in the last ten years [who] is one of the most prolific pick-and-pop bigs the game has seen. So, I think this is a match made in heaven. I know Steph Curry has to be really excited.”

Based on the early reviews from Malone and Kerr, Warriors fans should be plenty excited, as well.

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Gotcha! LeBron James' second decision teaser turns out to be an ad

Gotcha.

When LeBron James posted about a “second decision” on X, plenty of fans leapt to the conclusion he was going to announce a farewell tour and would retire after this NBA season, a record 23rd. In the wake of the post, tickets for the Lakers' final regular-season home game skyrocketed 423%, with a get-in price of $85 quickly jumping to $445, according to TickPick.

Turns out, LeBron's second decision was about Hennessy.

It was some clever marketing by LeBron and Hennessy — right down to him wearing a shirt that looked a lot like the one he wore for the first decision — and it worked. People are talking. We're writing about it.

Nobody knows for sure when LeBron will retire, not even LeBron. However, the sense in league circles is that he will want a "farewell tour," and that is not currently part of the plan for this season, so he will play at least one more beyond the one that tips off on NBC and Peacock Oct. 21. The bigger question is, if he returns for a 24th season, will he play it in Lakers purple and gold, or another uniform? That question may have LeBron at the top of the free agent rumor mill next summer.

Fantasy Basketball Dynasty Top 300: Wembanyama, SGA, and the arrival of Cooper Flagg

What an exciting time for dynasty managers.

It's not often that a rookie can be valued in the top five before ever suiting up for a regular season game, but here we are with Cooper Flagg. This is the second time it has happened in the last three years, and there are three players that will enter the league next season that already have a case to be valued in the top 25 despite not yet suiting up for a college game yet. Those three players are Darryn Peterson (Kansas), Cam Boozer (Duke) and AJ Dybantsa (BYU), and every fantasy manager, even if you don't play dynasty leagues, should be keeping an eye on them throughout this upcoming season.

The consensus top four players in dynasty leagues are the same four players for single-season leagues. The future is here, and it's here to stay. Getting a top pick gives managers such an edge in every format, which is why a third-round reversal is often used to help level the playing field. However, that doesn't mean drafts are won or lost in the first round. This list is littered with players that have tremendous upside and can eventually help you win your league.

These rankings are tailored for category leagues, which means that players will be valued differently by every manager in your league, depending on team direction and build. However, regardless of those factors, this is how I'd value the top 300 players in dynasty leagues.

RankPositionPlayer NameTeam
1CVictor WembanyamaSAS
2SGShai Gilgeous-AlexanderOKC
3PGLuka DoncicLAL
4CNikola JokicDEN
5PFCooper FlaggDAL
6PGCade CunninghamDET
7PFEvan MobleyCLE
8SGAnthony EdwardsMIN
9PFChet HolmgrenOKC
10SFAmen ThompsonHOU
11PFJalen JohnsonATL
12SFJalen WilliamsOKC
13PGLaMelo BallCHA
14PFGiannis AntetokounmpoMIL
15CAlperen SengunHOU
16PGTrae YoungATL
17SFJayson TatumBOS
18PGTyrese HaliburtonIND
19PGTyrese MaxeyPHI
20CKarl-Anthony TownsNYK
21PFScottie BarnesTOR
22SFFranz WagnerORL
23SGDevin BookerPHO
24SGDonovan MitchellCLE
25PFPaolo BancheroORL
26PFJaren Jackson Jr.MEM
27SFTrey Murphy IIINOR
28PGDarius GarlandCLE
29PGDylan HarperSAS
30CDomantas SabonisSAC
31PFAnthony DavisDAL
32SFBrandon MillerCHA
33SGDesmond BaneORL
34PGJalen BrunsonNYK
35PGDe’Aaron FoxSAS
36PGJa MorantMEM
37SGDyson DanielsATL
38SFJaylen BrownBOS
39CBam AdebayoMIA
40SFAusar ThompsonDET
41PGStephen CurryGSW
42SFKevin DurantHOU
43PGJamal MurrayDEN
44SGVJ EdgecombePHI
45SFDeni AvdijaPOR
46SGAustin ReavesLAL
47CWalker KesslerUTA
48COnyeka OkongwuATL
49PFLauri MarkkanenUTA
50PFZion WilliamsonNOR
51SGTyler HerroMIA
52PFAlex SarrWAS
53CDereck Lively IIDAL
54CJalen DurenDET
55SFAce BaileyUTA
56SGJames HardenLAC
57CMyles TurnerMIL
58PFPascal SiakamIND
59PGJordan PooleNOR
60PGKyrie IrvingDAL
61PGDerrick WhiteBOS
62PGJosh GiddeyCHI
63SGReed SheppardHOU
64CDonovan ClinganPOR
65SFOG AnunobyNYK
66PGCoby WhiteCHI
67SGZach LaVineSAC
68CJarrett AllenCLE
69PGJalen SuggsORL
70PGImmanuel QuickleyTOR
71PGScoot HendersonPOR
72SFTari EasonHOU
73SFKon KnueppelCHA
74SFDevin VassellSAS
75CIvica ZubacLAC
76CIsaiah HartensteinOKC
77PGDejounte MurrayNOR
78PFNaz ReidMIN
79SGBrandin PodziemskiGSW
80SGTre JohnsonWAS
81SFBrandon IngramTOR
82SFMatas BuzelisCHI
83PFCollin Murray-BoylesTOR
84CKhaman MaluachPHO
85PGNikola TopićOKC
86CKristaps PorziņģisATL
87CMark WilliamsPHO
88PGPayton PritchardBOS
89SFMikal BridgesNYK
90SFKawhi LeonardLAC
91SFJaden McDanielsMIN
92SGJared McCainPHI
93SGAnfernee SimonsBOS
94CKel’el WareMIA
95SGStephon CastleSAS
96SGCam ThomasBKN
97PFJabari Smith Jr.HOU
98CJoel EmbiidPHI
99PGRob DillinghamMIN
100PGCason WallaceOKC
101SGShaedon SharpePOR
102SGJaden IveyDET
103SFJimmy ButlerGSW
104SFMiles BridgesCHA
105SGChristian BraunDEN
106PGAndrew NembhardIND
107SFBilal CoulibalyWAS
108PFTaylor HendricksUTA
109SFLeBron JamesLAL
110SFZaccharie RisacherATL
111SFRon Holland IIDET
112SFKyshawn GeorgeWAS
113SGJalen GreenPHO
114PFDerik QueenNOR
115SFCameron JohnsonDEN
116CZach EdeyMEM
117PGJeremiah FearsNOR
118PFToumani CamaraPOR
119PFJulius RandleMIN
120PGEgor DëminBKN
121SGMalik MonkSAC
122SFJosh HartNYK
123PFKeegan MurraySAC
124CJakob PoeltlTOR
125CKyle FilipowskiUTA
126PFNikola JovićMIA
127PGBub CarringtonWAS
128SFPaul GeorgePHI
129CThomas SorberOKC
130SFHerbert JonesNOR
131SFMichael Porter Jr.BKN
132CYves MissiNOR
133CRudy GobertMIN
134CNic ClaxtonBKN
135CDeandre AytonLAL
136PGKasparas JakučionisMIA
137PFRyan DunnPHO
138PGDamian LillardPOR
139SFCedric CowardMEM
140CYang HansenPOR
141PGIsaiah CollierUTA
142CDaniel GaffordDAL
143PFJeremy SochanSAS
144PFJohn CollinsLAC
145PFJarace WalkerIND
146SGKeon EllisSAC
147SGKeyonte GeorgeUTA
148SGRJ BarrettTOR
149CJoan BeringerMIN
150PFSanti AldamaMEM
151SFCarter BryantSAS
152SGNorman PowellMIA
153SGDonte DiVincenzoMIN
154PGCollin SextonCHA
155CNikola VučevićCHI
156SFNique CliffordSAC
157PGWalter Clayton Jr.UTA
158SFNoa EssengueCHI
159PGFred VanVleetHOU
160SFDeMar DeRozanSAC
161SGBennedict MathurinIND
162SFGradey DickTOR
163PFPeyton WatsonDEN
164PFP.J. WashingtonDAL
165SFJaylen WellsMEM
166SFAaron NesmithIND
167PGAnthony BlackORL
168SGCJ McCollumWAS
169SGQuentin GrimesPHI
170PFRasheer FlemingPHO
171PGAyo DosunmuCHI
172PFAaron GordonDEN
173SFJonathan KumingaFA
174SFCam WhitmoreHOU
175SFVince Williams Jr.MEM
176SGBradley BealLAC
177SGMax ChristieDAL
178SGNickeil Alexander-WalkerATL
179CRyan KalkbrennerCHA
180PFGG JacksonMEM
181SFAndrew WigginsMIA
182PGNolan TraoréBKN
183CWendell Carter Jr.ORL
184SGJase RichardsonORL
185PGDennis SchröderSAC
186CGoga BitadzeORL
187SFDe’Andre HunterCLE
188PGJrue HolidayPOR
189SGDevin CarterSAC
190SGLuguentz DortOKC
191CDanny WolfBKN
192PFDraymond GreenGSW
193PFTobias HarrisDET
194PGD’Angelo RussellDAL
195SFJake LaRaviaLAL
196PFJonathan MogboTOR
197SGAlex CarusoOKC
198CMitchell RobinsonNYK
199PGLonzo BallCLE
200SGTre MannCHA
201PGMiles McBrideNYK
202SFBrice SensabaughUTA
203CBobby Portis Jr.MIL
204CDay’Ron SharpeBKN
205PFAsa NewellATL
206SFKelly Oubre Jr.PHI
207CMaxime RaynaudSAC
208SFCody WilliamsUTA
209PGTyus JonesORL
210PFJerami GrantPOR
211PGAjay MitchellOKC
212PGScotty Pippen Jr.MEM
213PFObi ToppinIND
214PGTy JeromeMEM
215SFAaron WigginsOKC
216SFJaylon TysonCLE
217SFJulian StrawtherDEN
218SGKevin Porter Jr.MIL
219PFRui HachimuraLAL
220SFNaji MarshallDAL
221PFGuerschon YabuseleNYK
222CDaRon Holmes IIDEN
223SFMoses MoodyGSW
224SGJordan HawkinsNOR
225COso IghodaroPHO
226PGDavion MitchellMIA
227PFPatrick WilliamsCHI
228SFAdou ThieroLAL
229SGJa’Kobe WalterTOR
230SGKris DunnLAC
231SGCaris LeVertDET
232SFDillon BrooksPHO
233PGT.J. McConnellIND
234CMoussa DiabatéCHA
235PGJose AlvaradoNOR
236SFKeldon JohnsonSAS
237PFJalen SmithCHI
238SFLiam McNeeleyCHA
239PFNoah PendaORL
240PFJonathan IsaacORL
241SFDalton KnechtLAL
242SFJaime Jaquez Jr.MIA
243SGKevin HuerterCHI
244SGBruce BrownDEN
245SGMax StrusCLE
246SFKhris MiddletonWAS
247SFTristan da SilvaORL
248PFKyle KuzmaMIL
249CNick RichardsPHO
250SGGrayson AllenPHO
251PGCole AnthonyMIL
252CRobert Williams IIIPOR
253PGKam JonesIND
254CIsaiah StewartDET
255SGHugo GonzalezBOS
256PFTidjane SalaünCHA
257CBrook LopezLAC
258CAdem BonaPHI
259PGRussell WestbrookFA
260SGDrake PowellBKN
261PGKobe BufkinBKN
262SGAJ JohnsonWAS
263SGAlijah MartinTOR
264SFJustin ChampagnieWAS
265SGBuddy HieldGSW
266SGKlay ThompsonDAL
267SGGary Trent Jr.MIL
268SFJulian ChampagnieSAS
269SGBogdan BogdanovićLAC
270SFZiaire WilliamsBKN
271CClint CapelaHOU
272CIsaiah JacksonIND
273CYanic Konan NiederhauserLAC
274SGChaz LanierDET
275CNeemias QuetaBOS
276SGMarcus SmartLAL
277CQuinten PostGSW
278SGMalik BeasleyFA
279CBrandon ClarkeMEM
280CKarlo MatkovićNOR
281SGKeon JohnsonBKN
282CTrayce Jackson-DavisGSW
283PFMouhamed GueyeATL
284PGTre JonesCHI
285PGJamal SheadTOR
286PGBen SarafBKN
287SGOchai AgbajiTOR
288CJay HuffIND
289CJohni BroomePHI
290SFBaylor ScheiermanBOS
291SFJohnny FurphyIND
292PFLeonard MillerMIN
293SFDillon JonesWAS
294SFTerrence Shannon Jr.MIN
295SFWill RileyWAS
296SGTyrese ProctorCLE
297SFJustin EdwardsPHI
298SGCraig Porter Jr.CLE
299SGIsaiah JoeOKC
300PGVít KrejciATL

NBA season 2025-26 preview: Five teams with best chance to dethrone Thunder (with best bets from our experts)

Oklahoma City is the clear favorite to repeat as NBA champions: They have the reigning MVP in Shai Gilgous-Alexander, bring back 14 players from the roster that just lifted the Larry O'Brien Trophy, and this roster is still young and improving.

However, repeating is hard. It takes not only talent but luck. It's not an accident that the NBA has had seven different champions in each of the past seven seasons (nobody has repeated since the Durant/Curry Warriors), it's incredibly difficult to do. What teams have a chance to knock the Thunder off the top of the mountain? Here are our five, complete with best bets from some of our experts.

Denver Nuggets

The case here is simple: Denver took OKC to seven games in last year's playoffs, then got a lot better this summer.

Denver added the steadier Cameron Johnson in place of Michael Porter Jr., added the best backup center Nikola Jokic has ever had in Jonas Valančiūnas, and added depth with Tim Hardaway Jr. and the return of Bruce Brown. Jokic and Jamal Murray is still the best two-man game in the league. Don't just take my word for it, two of the experts from our betting team chose Denver as their pick.

Drew Dinsick (@whale_capper): Denver Nuggets (+600)

I do think there is one that you need in pocket before the season starts, and let's put aside for a second that the Thunder are the clear Tier One in terms of wins, in terms of championship equity as we start the season, in terms of neutral power rating. This is the best team in basketball.

However, the way their schedule is sequenced, and just the fact that there's no real urgency for them to race out to a fast start, I definitely see a world where the time to bet the Thunder is not preseason. It's probably around New Year's.

So I am going to save, keep my powder dry to bet the Thunder until we get a little bit more clarity in terms of what the rest of the West looks like, because the rest of the West is absolutely stacked. However, the second most likely team to win, in my opinion, is the Denver Nuggets. I thought their offseason was truly spectacular, and now they have a relatively complete team coming to challenge the Thunder.

I think a healthy Nuggets' squad absolutely can test this Thunder team. So I think you need Nuggets in pocket now in the +650 range and then bet the Thunder around New Year's.

Trysta Krick (@Trysta_Krick): Denver Nuggets +600

The Denver Nuggets haven't made the loudest headlines this offseason, but they've quietly addressed the flaws that hurt them most in last year's playoffs. For years, Denver had no reliable backup center to spell Nikola Jokić, and the minutes he sat often turned into trouble. That weakness is finally addressed with the signing of Jonas Valančiūnas, who brings size, rebounding, and a steady interior presence for the second unit.

Depth had also slipped away since the 2023 title run, but the Nuggets worked to replenish it. Tim Hardaway Jr. adds bench scoring, and the return of Bruce Brown, a key piece of the championship rotation, should help steady the second unit and give them a ton of lineup versatility as well.

The biggest swing, though, is the addition of Cameron Johnson. His blend of smart cutting, knockdown shooting, and underrated passing is already changing how Denver's offense looks. His well-timed cuts, quick relocations, and feel for spacing pull defenders out of position, triggering extra passes and opening up easy catch-and-shoot threes for Denver's shooters while keeping the floor unclogged for Jokić and Murray. His fit is tailor-made for the Nuggets' half-court game—an area that becomes crucial in the playoffs when defenses tighten up. Johnson's complementary scoring could be the final piece that makes Denver's offense nearly impossible to guard in those grind-it-out possessions.

It's easy to forget this team pushed the defending champion Thunder to seven games last spring and was arguably a late collapse in Game 5 away from finishing the series in six. With more depth, a true backup for Jokić, and a wing like Johnson who elevates their half-court attack, betting the Nuggets to win the Championship at +600 is a solid bet.

Cleveland Cavaliers

By NBA rules, one team from the East is going to make the NBA Finals. As much as the West gets all the hype (deservedly so), one East team is going to get a best-of-seven shot in the Finals. Most of us thought last June that the Thunder would wipe the floor with the Pacers, only to have Indiana push the Finals to a Game 7 (and if Tyrese Haliburton doesn't tear his Achilles early in that game, who knows).

Cleveland has a shot here. This was a 64-win team last season that fell short in the playoffs, in part due to injuries (Darius Garland and his turf toe being at the heart of those issues). The Cavaliers are stacked with Donovan Mitchell and Garland in the back court, plus Defensive Player of the Year Evan Mobley (who needs to take another step forward on offense) and Jarrett Allen up front. Last season's playoff loss feels like a learning curve for them, and the Cavs are not throwing away their shot. (That said, if the Knicks make the Finals, they have a puncher's chance as well.) NBC Sports' lead betting analyst Jay Croucher agrees on this one.

Jay Croucher (@croucherJD): Cleveland Cavaliers (+850)

I lean to think that the Thunder are just an absolute juggernaut, and that they are just going to waltz this with health. I think that the internal improvement from their younger players is going to be more significant than the upgrades that other teams in the West have made personnel-wise.

I think the fact that they sniffed 70 wins last year, despite Chet Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein missing half the season each or more, is very instructive. I think Jalen Williams will get better. I think Kayson Wallace will get better. I think Chet will get better and I think that this team is just a complete juggernaut.

I also think that the Cavs, at 8-1, are worth a bet in the East, I think because the East is just so weak. I think with health, the Cavs are just so clearly the best team in the East. So I would just go to war with the Thunder at +245 and the Cavs at +800.

Houston Rockets

Did the Fred VanVleet injury knock the Rockets out of contention?

With him, this team was unquestionably a contender. Last season, the Rockets won 52 games with a top-five defense in the league and an impressive list of young players: Amen Thompson, All-Star Alperen Sengun, Jabari Smith Jr., Tari Eason and more. Where the Rockets struggled was in their half-court offense, a glaring weakness that was evident in the playoff loss to the Warriors. Enter Kevin Durant. Still an elite bucket getter in the half-court at age 37, KD instantly vaulted the young Rockets up to contender status.

Then came the VanVleet ACL tear, very likely ending his season before it even started. Houston is going to give Thompson and second-year backup point guard Reed Sheppard every chance to fill the role. If one of them can, or if the team makes a deadline trade for a floor general point guard, the Rockets move back to contender status. It's just that some of us are a lot more skeptical now.

Los Angeles Lakers

Any team featuring Luka Doncic and LeBron James must be included here. Both have proven in the past that they can win a playoff game and maybe a series, carrying other players who may not be ready for that stage.

However, if the Lakers are truly going to be a threat, it all starts with Deandre Ayton. The former No. 1 pick has to return to his 2021 playoff form in Phoenix (when the Suns reached the Finals), where he was a solid rim protector on defense while finishing his rolls to the rim with buckets on offense (Doncic and LeBron will find him). The Lakers also have to prove they can defend. Coach J.J. Redick is going to start Doncic, LeBron and Austin Reaves — none of them consistently high-level defenders — which puts a lot of pressure on Ayton and whoever the fifth starter ends up being (Marcus Smart or Rui Hachimura) to get stops. Jared Vanderbilt will have to bring the defense off the bench. The Lakers' offense shouldn't be in question, but if they can get stops, too, this team will be a very tough out in the playoffs and can potentially make a run.

Minnesota Timberwolves

Somehow, the team that has been to back-to-back Western Conference Finals, with one of the rising stars in the game in Anthony Edwards, gets overlooked in these conversations. We're not making that mistake.

That said, it's fair to ask if these Timberwolves will resemble the one that went a bland 32-29 through the first five months of last season, or the one that finished the season 17-4 and then carried that momentum over to the playoffs? If Minnesota is going to make another deep run, it needs Edwards to take another step forward to become a top-five player in the game, Mike Conley needs to stay healthy and not show a steep decline at age 38, and the team is going to need to show that it can handle the loss of Nickeil Alexander-Walker in free agency. Rudy Gobert needs to stay healthy, and just re-signed Julius Randle needs to find a better rhythm with Edwards and live up to that new deal.

A lot of things need to fall in place for the Timberwolves to get back to the Western Conference Finals and advance, but count Edwards and them out at your own risk.

One more to watch: Golden State Warriors. This would be a long shot bet that the gravity and shooting of Stephen Curry, the defense and passing of Draymond Green, and "playoff" Jimmy Butler bringing the physicality and grit can lead a team on a run. It's a bet that there is a little more magic in the tank for Golden State. I'm not sold it happens, but if the stars align... who knows.

How to watch Chicago Bulls vs. Cleveland Cavaliers: TV/live stream info, preview, tip off time

The 2025-26 NBA regular season doesn't get going until another few weeks, but that doesn't mean we have to wait that long to see some basketball action.

The Chicago Bulls will head to Rocket Arena to take on the Cleveland Cavaliers for a preseason game on Peacock tonight at 7 p.m. ET as both teams continue to get ready for another year with hopes of reaching the playoffs again. Read on for more information on the matchup and how to watch it live.

Chicago Bulls vs. Cleveland Cavaliers team news, preview

The Cavaliers had a stellar 2024-25 campaign after finishing on top of the Eastern Conference during the regular season, logging 64 wins, having a top 10 defense and the best offense in the league. Led by First Team All-NBA star player Donovan Mitchell, the Cavs are looking to keep that momentum going even after losing in the playoffs to the eventual conference champs Indiana Pacers. Mitchell will be surrounded by Evan Mobley, Max Strus, Jarrett Allen, and the addition of Lonzo Ball for Cleveland. It's unclear how many minutes each player will receive in the preseason, but keeping the band together gives head coach Kenny Atkinson an expensive foundation to lead an elite team in the NBA again.

As for the Bulls, the team is hoping to make several improvements this season. Chicago is coming off a 39-43 losing season and finishing in last place of the Central Division, but still secured a spot in the play-in tournament for the postseason. The re-signing of Josh Giddey to a new contract, keeping Coby White and Nikola Vucevic — disregarding any trade rumors — the Bulls should have enough talent to push for a playoff spot. White and Patrick Williams are reportedly dealing with injuries in the preseason, so it's unclear if either of the two will see the court in this Central Division tune-up game.

How to watch Chicago Bulls vs. Cleveland Cavaliers - TV/stream info

  • When: Tuesday, Oct. 7
  • Where: Rocket Arena – Cleveland, Ohio
  • Time: 7 PM ET
  • TV Channel: Peacock

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2025-26 Fantasy Basketball Mock Draft Results: 12-Team 9-Cat Analysis

To draft Embiid, or not to draft Embiid. That's the question I found myself asking in the fifth round of this mock draft, and the question many fantasy managers will be asking themselves this season.

This 9-category mock draft took place Tuesday, featuring standard settings. Notably, that means 12 teams and a requirement to start two centers. The draft was comprised of eight fantasy basketball analysts and four enthusiasts who joined through a post on my Twitter/X (@BaruthaAlex).

This was a fun, competitive draft. It outlines how difficult it can be to build a perfect team, but also how much value can be had late to cover what you don't feel great about.

Pre-Draft Strategy

I didn't have a set gameplan going into the draft, but when I found out I had the sixth pick, I knew I'd probably be getting one of Giannis Antetokounmpo, Cade Cunningham or Anthony Edwards. Whoever that turned out to be would determine what categories I'd be punting.

One thing I wanted to accomplish was constructing a team with some of fantasy's up-and-comers. How good can a team built primarily from young players with upside be? Will I feel like I left veteran stability on the table?

My Team

  1.  (6) Cade Cunningham (DET- PG, SG)
  2.  (19) Evan Mobley (CLE - PF, C)
  3.  (30) Paolo Banchero (ORL - PF, C)
  4.  (43) Ja Morant (MEM - PG)
  5.  (54) Coby White (CHI- PG, SG)
  6.  (67) Andrew Nembhard (IND - PG, SG)
  7.  (78) Donovan Clingan (POR - C)
  8.  (91) Nic Claxton (BKN - C)
  9.  (102) Shaedon Sharpe (POR - SG, SF)
  10.  (115) Andrew Wiggins (MIA - SG, SF)
  11.  (126) Keyonte George (UTA - PG, SG)
  12.  (139) Kyle Kuzma (MIL - SF, PF)
  13.  (150) T.J. McConnell (IND - PG)

How the Draft Unfolded

I ended up with Cade Cunningham with my first pick -- the most well-rounded option available. That left me open to decide on a punt build with Picks 2 and 3.

There were a lot of options open to me at Pick 2, including Amen Thompson, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Williams, Chet Holmgren and Josh Giddey. Ultimately, I opted for Evan Mobley. I think he's an underrated breakout candidate, and it helps that he qualifies at both power forward and center.

That decision made my third-round selection easier. I was trending toward a team of versatile bigs, which allowed me to take Paolo Banchero without worrying about his lack of three-pointers or subpar free-throw percentage. Those now became my punt categories and help steer the remainder of my draft.

I don't think I reached for anyone, but two picks that probably stick out the most are Coby White (54) and Andrew Nembhard (67). I had the option to draft Joel Embiid and passed, although he'd fit my build. In hindsight, I probably should have taken him since I already had two center-eligible players (Mobley and Banchero) who could be my points of stability at the position. Nembhard typically goes a round or two later than I selected him, but his floor is incredibly high in the Pacers' offense as someone who can pass and rack up steals.

I'm excited about getting Keyonte George at pick 126 and T.J. McConnell at 150. I might be on an island with George, but I think he's Utah's clear No. 3 option. A little more efficiency would go a long way in his value. And McConnell is McConnell -- we know he's one of the best per-minute producers in the league. More minutes should be available this year.

If I'm worried about any position, it's small forward. I didn't draft one until the 9th round (Shaedon Sharpe), and then had to make sure I got some stable value with Andrew Wiggins. We'll see how the Kyle Kuzma experience ends up being in Milwaukee.

Final Team Assessment

I like my team. The punt 3s and FT% build has cohesion, without too many players breaking the mold. I typically don't prefer to punt, but game theory suggests you should in category leagues. So I'm happy I built something that makes sense.

My biggest point of concern, other than my weak SF position, is Ja Morant. He's not starting the year healthy and is injury prone. But it's also difficult to win in fantasy without taking at least one swing, and he's that guy for me. I think that when he's on the floor, he could produce career-best numbers.

Conclusion and Full Draft Results

The lesson here is don't be afraid to commit to a strategy once your first 2-3 picks reveal a direction. Half-punting rarely works outside of some exceptional value picks and health luck.

Also, in two-center leagues, the position gets thin fast—I saw a run from picks 35-55 that cleared out the reliable starters. If you're waiting on center, have a plan. 

This season's young talent is deeper than ever, which makes mid-to-late round upside picks more valuable than usual.

Jeff's Mind-Blowing Team
1.(1)Nikola Jokić (DEN - C)
2.(24)Jalen Brunson (NYK - PG)
3.(25)Jaylen Brown (BOS - SG,SF)
4.(48)Nikola Vučević (CHI - C)
5.(49)DeMar DeRozan (SAC - SF)
6.(72)Immanuel Quickley (TOR - PG,SG)
7.(73)Brandon Ingram (TOR - SG,SF,PF)
8.(96)Jalen Green (PHX - PG,SG)
9.(97)John Collins (LAC - PF,C)
10.(120)Jaden Ivey (DET - PG,SG)
11.(121)Jonathan Kuminga (GSW - SF,PF)
12.(144)Jeremy Sochan (SAS - PF,C)
13.(145)Scoot Henderson (POR - PG)
Papi Roi of FBPH
1.(2)Victor Wembanyama (SAS - C)
2.(23)Chet Holmgren (OKC - PF,C)
3.(26)Derrick White (BOS - PG,SG)
4.(47)Kristaps Porziņģis (ATL - PF,C)
5.(50)Brandon Miller (CHA - SF,PF)
6.(71)Mikal Bridges (NYK - SF,PF)
7.(74)Alex Sarr (WAS - C)
8.(95)Jalen Suggs (ORL - PG)
9.(98)Herbert Jones (NOP - SF,PF)
10.(119)CJ McCollum (WAS - PG,SG)
11.(122)Bobby Portis (MIL - PF,C)
12.(143)Aaron Nesmith (IND - SF)
13.(146)Dejounte Murray (NOP - PG,SG)
Noah's Neat Team
1.(3)Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (OKC - PG)
2.(22)Jalen Williams (OKC - SF,PF)
3.(27)Alperen Sengun (HOU - C)
4.(46)Cooper Flagg (DAL - SF)
5.(51)Kawhi Leonard (LAC - SF,PF)
6.(70)Ausar Thompson (DET - SF,PF)
7.(75)Jordan Poole (NOP - PG,SG)
8.(94)Onyeka Okongwu (ATL - C)
9.(99)Brandin Podziemski (GSW - PG,SG)
10.(118)D'Angelo Russell (DAL - PG)
11.(123)Reed Sheppard (HOU - PG,SG)
12.(142)VJ Edgecombe (PHI - SG)
13.(147)Dylan Harper (SAS - SG)
Alex's Amazing Team
1.(4)Luka Dončić (LAL - PG,SG)
2.(21)Jalen Johnson (ATL - SF,PF)
3.(28)Josh Giddey (CHI - PG,SG)
4.(45)Zion Williamson (NOP - SF,PF)
5.(52)Austin Reaves (LAL - PG,SG)
6.(69)Deandre Ayton (LAL - C)
7.(76)Jakob Poeltl (TOR - C)
8.(93)Jrue Holiday (POR - PG,SG)
9.(100)Tobias Harris (DET - PF)
10.(117)Donte DiVincenzo (MIN - PG,SG)
11.(124)Kevin Porter Jr. (MIL - PG,SG)
12.(141)Scotty Pippen Jr. (MEM - PG,SG)
13.(148)Jabari Smith Jr. (HOU - PF,C)
Dimes's Perfect Team
1.(5)Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL - PF,C)
2.(20)Amen Thompson (HOU - PG,SG,SF)
3.(29)LaMelo Ball (CHA - PG,SG)
4.(44)Jaren Jackson Jr. (MEM - PF,C)
5.(53)Jimmy Butler III (GSW - SF,PF)
6.(68)Paul George (PHI - SG,SF,PF)
7.(77)Isaiah Hartenstein (OKC - C)
8.(92)Bradley Beal (LAC - SG,SF)
9.(101)Cam Thomas (BKN - SG,SF)
10.(116)Aaron Gordon (DEN - PF,C)
11.(125)Nickeil Alexander-Walker (ATL - SG,SF)
12.(140)Wendell Carter Jr. (ORL - C)
13.(149)Chris Paul (LAC - PG)
Alex Barutha
1.(6)Cade Cunningham (DET - PG,SG)
2.(19)Evan Mobley (CLE - PF,C)
3.(30)Paolo Banchero (ORL - PF,C)
4.(43)Ja Morant (MEM - PG)
5.(54)Coby White (CHI - PG,SG)
6.(67)Andrew Nembhard (IND - PG,SG)
7.(78)Donovan Clingan (POR - C)
8.(91)Nic Claxton (BKN - C)
9.(102)Shaedon Sharpe (POR - SG,SF)
10.(115)Andrew Wiggins (MIA - SG,SF)
11.(126)Keyonte George (UTA - PG,SG)
12.(139)Kyle Kuzma (MIL - SF,PF)
13.(150)T.J. McConnell (IND - PG)
Jeremy's First-Class Team
1.(7)Trae Young (ATL - PG)
2.(18)LeBron James (LAL - SF,PF)
3.(31)Scottie Barnes (TOR - SG,SF,PF)
4.(42)Dyson Daniels (ATL - PG,SG,SF)
5.(55)Joel Embiid (PHI - C)
6.(66)OG Anunoby (NYK - SF,PF)
7.(79)Matas Buzelis (CHI - SF,PF)
8.(90)Santi Aldama (MEM - PF,C)
9.(103)Naz Reid (MIN - PF,C)
10.(114)Toumani Camara (POR - SF,PF)
11.(127)Quentin Grimes (PHI - SG,SF)
12.(138)Bub Carrington (WAS - PG,SG)
13.(151)Kon Knueppel (CHA - SF)
SteveSaintP
1.(8)Anthony Davis (DAL - PF,C)
2.(17)Tyrese Maxey (PHI - PG)
3.(32)Jamal Murray (DEN - PG,SG)
4.(41)Myles Turner (MIL - C)
5.(56)Payton Pritchard (BOS - PG)
6.(65)Cameron Johnson (DEN - SF,PF)
7.(80)Mark Williams (PHX - C)
8.(89)Tari Eason (HOU - SF,PF)
9.(104)Isaiah Jackson (IND - C)
10.(113)Kyrie Irving (DAL - PG)
11.(128)Egor Demin (BKN - PG)
12.(137)Ace Bailey (UTA - SF)
13.(152)Ryan Kalkbrenner (CHA - C)
Kirien's Cool Team
1.(9)Karl-Anthony Towns (NYK - PF,C)
2.(16)Stephen Curry (GSW - PG)
3.(33)Pascal Siakam (IND - PF,C)
4.(40)Trey Murphy III (NOP - SF,PF)
5.(57)Lauri Markkanen (UTA - SF,PF)
6.(64)Darius Garland (CLE - PG)
7.(81)Rudy Gobert (MIN - C)
8.(88)Anfernee Simons (BOS - PG,SG)
9.(105)Bennedict Mathurin (IND - SG,SF)
10.(112)Zach Edey (MEM - C)
11.(129)Dennis Schröder (SAC - PG,SG)
12.(136)Stephon Castle (SAS - PG,SG)
13.(153)Davion Mitchell (MIA - PG)
Erdem's Expert Team
1.(10)Anthony Edwards (MIN - PG,SG)
2.(15)Donovan Mitchell (CLE - PG,SG)
3.(34)Bam Adebayo (MIA - PF,C)
4.(39)Desmond Bane (ORL - SG,SF)
5.(58)Miles Bridges (CHA - SF,PF)
6.(63)Zach LaVine (SAC - PG,SG)
7.(82)Tyler Herro (MIA - PG,SG)
8.(87)Norman Powell (MIA - SG,SF)
9.(106)RJ Barrett (TOR - SF,PF)
10.(111)Dereck Lively II (DAL - C)
11.(130)Jaylen Wells (MEM - SG,SF)
12.(135)Cason Wallace (OKC - PG,SG)
13.(154)Kyshawn George (WAS - SG,SF)
Sloan PivaSporting News/Athlon
1.(11)Devin Booker (PHX - PG,SG)
2.(14)Kevin Durant (HOU - SF,PF)
3.(35)Ivica Zubac (LAC - C)
4.(38)Deni Avdija (POR - SF,PF)
5.(59)Walker Kessler (UTA - C)
6.(62)Jarrett Allen (CLE - C)
7.(83)Christian Braun (DEN - SG,SF)
8.(86)Kel'el Ware (MIA - PF,C)
9.(107)Keegan Murray (SAC - SF,PF)
10.(110)Jaden McDaniels (MIN - SF,PF)
11.(131)Malik Monk (SAC - SG)
12.(134)Yves Missi (NOP - C)
13.(155)Jay Huff (IND - C)
Mac's Groovy Team
1.(12)James Harden (LAC - PG,SG)
2.(13)Domantas Sabonis (SAC - C)
3.(36)Franz Wagner (ORL - SF,PF)
4.(37)De'Aaron Fox (SAS - PG,SG)
5.(60)Josh Hart (NYK - SG,SF,PF)
6.(61)Jalen Duren (DET - C)
7.(84)Julius Randle (MIN - PF,C)
8.(85)Michael Porter Jr. (BKN - SF,PF)
9.(108)Devin Vassell (SAS - SG,SF)
10.(109)Draymond Green (GSW - PF,C)
11.(132)Lonzo Ball (CLE - PG,SG)
12.(133)Klay Thompson (DAL - SG,SF)
13.(156)Ty Jerome (MEM - SG)

Steve Kerr challenging Brandin Podziemski to adjust how he plays with ‘edge'

Steve Kerr challenging Brandin Podziemski to adjust how he plays with ‘edge' originally appeared on NBC Sports Bay Area

Before Warriors training camp was in full swing, Steve Kerr said last week that he expected third-year guard Brandin Podziemski to take another leap this season. 

So far, so good for Podziemski.

On Tim Kawakami’s “The TK Show,” Kerr was asked if the young guard looked “edgy.”

“For sure. He’s a competitor. He loves the game. He has high aspirations for himself and I love that about him,” Kerr explained. “At the same time, I want him to find the edge without the emotional downswings, and that has been what is so encouraging so far.” 

Kerr, in his first media availability last week, noted that there were many ups and downs for Podziemski. The Warriors coach noted that moving forward after “inevitable tough nights” would be important for Podziemski this season. 

“BP has been, in camp so far, just lights-out,” Kerr said to Tim Kawakami on “The TK Show”. “He is just playing at a really high level.” 

In Golden State’s first preseason game Sunday against the Los Angeles Lakers, Podziemski scored eight points in 18 minutes played. He also displayed his usual scrappy defensive ability with two steals on the night. 

This is part of the ‘edge’ that Kerr wants to see. What he does not want to see from Podziemski, as he noted to media last week, was the guard’s propensity to complain to referees. 

“We haven’t played a real game, but we had three NBA officials in our building… for our scrimmage. He didn’t stop and complain one time and I was thrilled with that,” Kerr noted. “I’m going to definitely stay on him about that because I think his emotion can lift our team and can also put us in a tough spot.” 

Kerr notes that Podziemski’s edge can help fuel the team, but staying even-keeled will also help the young guard and the team alike weather the storm on the inevitable tougher nights. 

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Steve Kerr shares expectations for Warriors rookie Will Richard this season

Steve Kerr shares expectations for Warriors rookie Will Richard this season originally appeared on NBC Sports Bay Area

The Warriors are a veteran-laden team entering the 2025-26 NBA season, but coach Steve Kerr is just as excited about the youth at his disposal.

Speaking to “The TK Show” host Tim Kawakami, Kerr raved about rookie guard Will Richard, the 56th overall pick in the 2025 NBA Draft.

“[Richard is] a great young guy,” Kerr told Kawakami. “Totally engaged. Got good size, can shoot it well and he’s just such a sponge. He’s so coachable. I think he has got a future.”

The 22-year-old, 6-foot-4 Richard brings plenty of collegiate experience with him into the professional ranks. He played his freshman season at Belmont University in Tennessee before transferring to the University of Florida, where he started 105 games over his final three seasons of college play.

His success with the Gators led the Memphis Grizzlies to select Richard in the second round of June’s NBA Draft. Memphis then traded Richard’s rights to the Warriors, where he will learn from veteran stalwarts like Stephen Curry, Draymond Green, Jimmy Butler and Al Horford. And while the presence of those established stars will make it difficult for Richard to find playing time this upcoming season, Kerr is bullish on his long-term prospects.

“Usually, guys in their rookie years, it takes time,” Kerr told Kawakami. “So, I don’t anticipate Will playing any time soon. He’ll certainly see some time in Santa Cruz to get lots of playing time. He’s impressive and I think we really like him.”

It’s clear Richard already has endeared himself to his coach and one of his star teammates. Now, it’s up to the rookie to validate the organization’s excitement.

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Knicks, Bucks reportedly discussed Giannis Antetokounmpo trade this summer but talks went nowhere

"Of course, yes [he considered whether to ask out of Milwaukee]. Guys, every summer there's truth to every report. The same thing I've been saying my whole career — I want to be on a team that allows me, gives me a chance to win a championship and wants to compete at a high level. I think it's a disservice to basketball, it's a disservice just to the game to not want to compete at a high level, to not want your season to end in April. So, it's pretty much the same. It's not the first time."

This summer may not have been the first time Giannis Antetokounmpo considered his future and asking for a trade — as he said at media day — but it may have been the most serious.

Antetokounmpo is now with the Bucks, having recovered from COVID, flown to Milwaukee from Greece, and joined his teammates at training camp. He may be all in with this team to open the season, but this summer he considered a move to New York, and the Bucks and Knicks had conversations about a potential Antetokounmpo trade, talks that never really gained traction, reports Shams Charania of ESPN.

Several teams were discussed internally, but one emerged as the only place Antetokounmpo wanted to play outside of Milwaukee: the New York Knicks, multiple sources with direct knowledge of the situation told ESPN.

The Bucks picked up the Knicks' call on Antetokounmpo, and the sides engaged in conversations for a window of time in August, league sources said, but the teams never got traction on a deal.

The Bucks insisted to the Knicks that they preferred not to move Antetokounmpo, but those in Milwaukee believe New York did not make a strong enough offer to continue even discussing a trade, league sources said. It's unclear how the Bucks would have responded to an all-out chase by the Knicks ... New York, for its part, believes the Bucks never were serious about entertaining an Antetokounmpo trade, sources said.

Let's be clear, the Milwaukee Bucks do not want to trade Giannis Antetokounmpo and will only do so if he demands it. He is the greatest player in franchise history (with all due respect to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar). He's the player who not only makes them a threat on the court but fills the building with fans and has sponsors wanting to do business with the Bucks. Antetokounmpo is both the face and the driving economic engine of this franchise. Milwaukee wants to keep him badly enough to waive-and-stretch Damian Lillard (leaving $22.5 million in dead money on the books for each of the next five years) to free up the money to sign stretch five Myles Turner away from Indiana.

If ever forced to trade him, Milwaukee will ask for a boatload of players — ideally quality young players, plus veteran contracts they can flip in a trade — and a lot of draft picks, all of it to jump-start the inevitable rebuild. New York is not flush with young players and only has a few first-round picks to trade. This trade works on paper a couple of different ways — OG Anunoby and Josh Hart plus a couple of first-round picks to Milwaukee, or Karl-Anthony Towns and Miles McBride plus picks (the Bucks would need to waive some players to make the roster numbers work in either deal) — but is either of those enough for Milwaukee? It's unknown if the Knicks ever got close to that offer or what was informally discussed.

New York is in the mix to win the East this season without Antetokounmpo, it is not desperate to make this trade. It's also fair to ask how Antetokounmpo and Jalen Brunson would work together (both are All-NBA players because of what they do with the ball in their hands, neither is as special working off the ball). As great as Antetokounmpo is, would the Knicks break up their best team in decades to chase him that hard?

If Antetokounmpo does get frustrated in Milwaukee this season, trading his $54.1 million salary at the deadline would be incredibly difficult in the tax apron era of the NBA. It's likely more of an offseason move.

Just add this to the list of things to watch.