Report: Joe Pavelski Confirms Ongoing Process With Maple Leafs For Head Coach Role

It's been widely reported that former NHL star Joe Pavelski has been in the mix. One of the latest reports came from TSN's Pierre LeBrun, when his sources confirmed to him that Pavelski was among the remaining five or so candidates to be named the next head coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Most recently, Pavelski himself confirmed the reports of the Maple Leafs showing interest in hiring him as the club's head coach.

“There’s truth to that stuff, we’ve had discussions,” Pavelski told Curtis Pashelka of the Bay Area News Group. “I’m excited to go through the process and kind of see where it leads.”

Pavelski has no experience as a head coach in the NHL or any sort of staffing role in the league since retiring as a player in July 2024, according to eliteprospects.com.

However, this past season, he coached the Madison Capitols' U-15 AAA team, with his son, Nate, on the roster.

Five Serious Remaining Candidates In Race For Maple Leafs Head Coach PositionFive Serious Remaining Candidates In Race For Maple Leafs Head Coach PositionAfter another head coach came off the Toronto Maple Leafs' list of candidates, here are five serious remaining contenders in the race to become the 42nd bench boss in franchise history.

Many may not believe Pavelski's experience as a coach justifies the possibility of being hired as an NHL head coach, and for one of the NHL's biggest and most intense markets, no less.

But this type of hire has happened before, and in another massive NHL market, with the Montreal Canadiens hiring Martin St-Louis as their head coach during the 2021-22 campaign.

Before being picked for the Canadiens job, St-Louis' only coaching experience was for his son, Lucas, and his team, the Mid Fairfield Rangers, at the U-13 AAA level.

Logan Stankoven Sees Joe Pavelski 'Being Very Successful’ If He Got NHL Coaching Job With Maple LeafsLogan Stankoven Sees Joe Pavelski 'Being Very Successful’ If He Got NHL Coaching Job With Maple LeafsLogan Stankoven knows firsthand what Joe Pavelski brings to young players, which could make him a successful coach of the Maple Leafs if that's the direction they want to go.

Since he was brought in by Montreal, the Habs have seen exponential growth with the players and as a team. St-Louis' history as a star player in the NHL allows him to truly connect with his players. The Canadiens' recent playoff run to the Eastern Conference final is an example of his influence and success with the Habs.

While plenty of other coaches are being considered by the Maple Leafs, it's clear that Toronto's brass is looking to be creative and explore new concepts.

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Blue Jackets Should Target Blackhawks Pending UFA Forward

The Columbus Blue Jackets should be looking to add to their forward depth this off-season. One player who the Blue Jackets should consider making a push for is Chicago Blackhawks forward Ilya Mikheyev. 

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported last month that the Blackhawks have made Mikheyev's signing rights available for trade. With Mikheyev being a solid top-nine forward who provides decent secondary scoring and strong defensive play, the Blue Jackets should consider pursuing him. 

Mikheyev just had back-to-back solid campaigns with the Blackhawks. During the 2024-25 season with Chicago, he scored 20 goals and recorded 34 points. He followed that up this season by scoring 18 goals and setting a new career high with 36 points. With numbers like these, he would have the potential to provide the Blue Jackets with more offensive production if they brought him in. 

Mikheyev has also recorded at least 31 points in four out of his last five seasons. The only time he did not over that span was in 2022-23 with the Vancouver Canucks when he had 28 points but only played in 46 games. 

Mikheyev also provides plenty of value because of his strong penalty killing. He was a major part of the Blackhawks' penalty kill this season and could hold the same role if signed by the Blue Jackets. 

While Mikheyev is not the flashiest of players, he would still be a solid pickup for a Blue Jackets club that is looking to be more competitive next season. On a two- to three-year contract, the 31-year-old forward could be a good value signing for the Blue Jackets to make. 

In 427 career NHL games split between the Toronto Maple Leafs, Canucks, and Blackhawks, Mikheyev has recorded 98 goals, 103 assists, 201 points, and a plus-38 rating. 

Next Up For Columbus: The NHL Draft is on June 26 and 27 in Buffalo, where the CBJ will own pick #14. 

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Flyers Linked to Top Swedish Winger Prospect Ahead of 2026 NHL Draft

With the 2026 NHL Draft now just two weeks away, we are finally beginning to get an idea of what the Philadelphia Flyers might do with the 21st overall pick.

Much has been made of the Flyers' pursuit of high-end talent and a potential No. 1 center or defenseman, but the reality is, this late in the first round, that's quite unlikely.

A smaller, more dynamic defenseman like Xavier Villeneuve could be that for the Flyers, but that kind of selection has not been in the team's DNA under GM Danny Briere.

With the actual depth of the 2026 draft class looking questionable, all roads may, in fact, lead the Flyers to choosing yet another winger in the first round.

New draft intel from Cam Robinson of Elite Prospects indicates that this very well may be the case when it comes down to it.

"[Elton Hermansson], I had a little bee whisper that maybe [the Flyers] had a good chat with him at the combine. Maybe they like Hermansson," Robinson said on the "Called Up: The Prospects" podcast with fellow draft expert Chris Peters.

Now, Peters did have the Flyers picking a different winger in Adam Novotny at 21 when the duo did their full first-round mock draft on the podcast, but Hermansson offers a bit of a different profile.

The 6-foot-1 Swede is wildly skilled and already plays pro, having played 38 games for MoDo in HockeyAllsvenskan, Sweden's second-tier league, this past season. In those 38 games, Hermansson scored 11 goals, 10 assists, and 21 points.

The 19-year-old's scouting report from Elite Prospects tells us exactly why the Flyers might be looking his way later this month.

Flyers Draft Talk: Another Winger Isn't Such a Bad IdeaFlyers Draft Talk: Another Winger Isn't Such a Bad IdeaEventually, the Philadelphia Flyers will need to draft replacements for Travis Konecny and Owen Tippett.

"Looking for a high upside forward bet in the second half of the first round? Elton Hermansson could be just what the doctor ordered," an excerpt from his 2026 draft guide profile reads.

"Hermansson’s offensive skill level is impossible to miss, especially whenever he plays against his peers. He dominates the puck, consistently able to drive play and create quality chances for himself through his superior elusiveness and handling abilities."

The Flyers have no shortage of wingers with Porter Martone, Matvei Michkov, Denver Barkey, Alex Bump, Tyson Foerster, and the elderstatesmen Travis Konecny and Owen Tippett.

But, by the time Hermansson is ready to go full-time at the NHL level, Konecny and Tippett will be well into their 30s, and Foerster will be close to it.

So, if the value is there, and everything goes well in his development, the Swedish dynamo could be a natural replacement in the top-six for one of those three.

“Super talented kid. Very talented. He’s got a nose for the net. He can shoot the puck. He’s got shifty feet, maybe a touch knock-kneed, but it doesn’t affect the speed. I think he’s going to be a good offensive winger," an Eastern Conference executive said of Hermansson, as included in the Elite Prospects 2026 draft guide.

"I’m not sure what his player comp is in the NHL, but I like his odds to be a scoring top-six winger in the NHL. Another thing with Hermansson is that he’s not physical, but he’s also not shy to play through contact. Great kid, too.”

Hermansson will have to develop a "B-Game", as many coaches say, to ensure a successful NHL future, but there is enough talent there to justify the Flyers taking another player at the winger position with a premium draft pick.

His pro production, as well as his dominance in international junior hockey (12 points in seven World Junior games, 33 points in 18 total games for Sweden's U18s), will make Hermansson impossible to dismiss, even for a winger-heavy team like the Flyers.

Knicks Bulletin: ‘Zero-Zero’

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The Day has arrived, folks.

It’s win-and-chip for the Knicks in Texas.

Here’s the latest from San Antonio, half a day from the most-anticipated tip-off in Knicks history.

Mike Brown

On the need for staying focused with the title one win away:

“The biggest thing is everybody has to stay present. You have to be present. You can’t think about the outcome. It’s about the process, the next play, the next play, the next play. Sometimes you can think about the process, and it not work out. But when you’re playing against other great teams especially, that’s how you have to take it because anybody’s mind can start wandering when you think about the outcome.”

On the Knicks’ maturity keeping heads level:

“Their level of maturity. Obviously, we have some veteran guys on the team. But you can be a veteran and still have a little bit of immaturity about you, as we all know. From top to bottom, this group is pretty mature. That rubs off on the rest of the group. It makes my job easier. We’ve been preaching all year that it’s about the next possession, the next possession, the next possession. We understand any time you try to play a closeout game, the level of desperation for your opponents increases, the level of desperation for the fans of your opponents is increased. You have to bring your best effort.”

On avoiding complacency after the historic Game 4 win:

“It is hard. We’re all human. It was hard even in the series that we swept. You win two, three, four, five games in a row, there’s a tendency to relax a little bit. That’s just in life. In your job, you have success for 10 months straight, maybe you feel like, I got this, I know what I’m doing. You’re not as sharp then because everybody’s been patting you on your back and telling you how great you are. Trying to manufacture things to help guys lock in, trying to talk to guys individually so they can continue to talk to their teammates to lock in, all that stuff is huge. Having Pat’s presence around, Pat Ewing, so he can talk to guys to help them lock in from a different vantage point, is all huge, especially during this time and coming off a win like we did last time.”

On the Knicks’ closeout-game mentality:

“We’ve been preaching all year: It’s about the next possession, the next possession, the next possession. We understand anytime you try to play a closeout game, the level of desperation for your opponents increases. The level of desperation for the fans of your opponents is increased. You have to bring your best effort, because even if you bring your best effort, it may not happen, especially on the road. That’s the only way you have a chance for it to happen.”

On preventing a Game 4 hangover:

“I can’t 100% say, ‘This is what I’m going to do to make them not have the hangover from the win two nights ago.’ The biggest thing is, continuing to preach 0-0. Continuing to preach, ‘Stay present.’ Continuing to preach, ‘Next possession, next possession, next possession,’ and hope the experiences they’ve gone through as a group already, and their maturity — as well as our standards, which they’ve really hung onto all year — will help us lock into this game. It’s going to be hard. San Antonio’s a great team. They’re desperate. I still think they believe. It’s going to be hard for us. But it’s natural for that to creep in a little bit. You just hope that it doesn’t creep in too long throughout the course of the game.”

On Jalen Brunson still not getting enough recognition:

“He definitely has not — or did not — get the attention that he deserved during the regular season. I think he’s a top-three MVP candidate. And when it comes down to those things, his name wasn’t mentioned much.”

On what he learned the most from Steve Kerr and Gregg Popovich:

“I’ve been fortunate, blessed, lucky to be a part of some good coaching staffs and be with some great coaches, Steve Kerr, Gregg Popovich, they were guys that went deep into their bench. You keep guys engaged by doing that, and you do develop not just a bench but the team, as well, because guys get used to playing with other guys. I’ve seen it work in the past, and that’s kind of what I thought I wanted to do here.”

On lessons learned from Gregg Popovich:

“That’s a great question. I mean, I’d have to think about it. But, you know, you draw a lot from the people that you’ve worked with in the past—people that you’ve experienced things with. For me, working for Pop, I drew a lot. I feel like I drew a lot from a lot of the guys I’ve worked with, but he always used to say: during the regular season, that’s the time to get up, go crazy on the sidelines and all that stuff, because it’s just one game at a time—you practice and you move on to the next game.”

Jalen Brunson

On the Knicks’ mindset entering Game 5 with a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals:

“Zero-zero.”

On turning the page after Game 4:

“Whenever you win or lose a game, that night, you’re going to think about it, think about the things you’ve done well or what you did wrong, [but] I’ve always told myself when you wake up the next day, it’s time to turn the page. Yes, we won [Game 4], but we still have a lot of work to do. We have a lot to learn. We didn’t play our best basketball. We still have a lot to revisit to make sure that we don’t really put ourselves in that position again. But honestly, we still have to continue to have the belief that we’ve had. It’s really important from that aspect.”

On appreciating the opportunity ahead:

“I think I’ve been able to understand what a unique opportunity this is. When you’re doing the things that help you prepare for a game, prepare for moments, put yourself in routines that you’ve done your whole career, your whole life, when it comes game time, you’re ready to go because you put yourself, you put your mind in a position to be ready.”

On Karl-Anthony Towns’ career and teamming up with him:

“The narrative was placed on him by the outside world. You never really know a person until you meet them face to face, and you see what they say and what their actions are. And being the teammate that he is and seeing his sacrifices and seeing what he’s done his entire career puts him in a position to become a hall of famer. And honestly, I wouldn’t trade that for the world. And the things that he’s done have been extraordinary, and I’m not really sure how he’s going to respond to me saying all these nice things about him, but he’s one hell of a basketball player, but he’s honestly a better teammate.”

On the Knicks’ approach to Game 5:

“Obviously, when we practice, we have film, we talk about situations, what we have to do. You’re always preparing worst-possible-case scenario. If it happens, we have to prepare for this. Our mindset and focus is on one possession at a time, one play at a time, one quarter at a time. You’re thinking about the now, how you can be better the next possession, how can you turn the page, positive or negative. Regardless of what’s going on, our mindset and approach has to stay the same. I think we’ve done a very good job of that. It’s something that has grown over the season. It’s really important, especially obviously now.”

On not fearing failure:

“I think the one thing that stays constant is I’ve always told myself, and always been taught by my parents, ‘Never be afraid to fail.’ You put yourself in those positions in the summertime when you’re envisioning what’s going on the court, when you’re by yourself on the court. When those opportunities come about, you’re not afraid of the moment because you worked hard enough to where if you do fail, you’re going to learn anyway. You put the confidence you have in everything you do when the lights aren’t on, when no one’s watching.”

Josh Hart

On avoiding another slow start:

“They come out with a lot of energy. They’ve been doing it all playoffs, and we’ve been very up and down with that a lot this year. We have to make sure we come in focus with a great attention to detail, and taking things a possession at a time. If we do that, and we play our style of basketball, we’re going to put ourselves in a good position to be successful. But we can’t keep getting into a hole and trying to dig ourselves out of a hole. We were fortunate to do that last game — all three of our wins. We’ve got to do a better job of starting games off.”

On representing New York:

“This city is built on toughness, grit, blue-collar people, and I feel like I’m the same person. They can look in the mirror and they can see myself, just because that’s how I look at myself and I just happen to hoop.”

On the Knicks’ belief in themselves:

“I just think we have a belief in ourselves and a belief in our team as a collection. We all had adverse situations independently in our careers and we made it through. And I think if we have that mentality individually and as a team, nothing else matters.”

On preparing for Game 5:

“We know they come out with a lot of energy. They’ve been doing it all playoffs. We’ve been very up and down with that a lot this year. So we’ve got to make sure we come in focused with a great attention to detail and taking things a possession at a time. We know if we do that and we play our style of basketball, we’re going to put ourselves in a good position to be successful. But we can’t keep getting into a hole and trying to dig ourselves out of a hole. We were fortunate to do that last game — actually, all three games, all three of our wins — but we’ve got to do a better job of starting games off.”

Karl-Anthony Towns

On the challenge of playing closeout games:

“We’ve got to go in there with the understanding of no comfortability, just really be desperate, execute at a high level. Game-plan discipline has to be at a high level. I’ve said this multiple times: The hardest game to win is the one that ends someone’s season. So we’ve got to be our best version tomorrow.”

On the approach to Game 5:

“We spoke about it multiple times. We’ve got to approach every game like it’s 0-0. We’ve got to have that kind of desperation that it is to win Game 1 of a playoff series. We’ve got to go in there with the understanding of no comfortability, just really be desperate, execute at a high level. Gameplan discipline has to be at a high level.”

On resetting after Game 4:

“Obviously that game is a hardwood classic, something that the NBA has never seen before. But I’ve also seen things, being in that situation, where the joy is at an all-time high and it could be at an all-time low pretty quick. So we understand the magnitude of locking back in, getting back to work. Of course that night, we all enjoyed the shell-shock of what happened, and obviously we were the ones that were part of it. But we all understood the next morning that we had to get back to work, and we had to lock back in, and get ready to find a way to win another one.”

On the Game 4 comeback and concerns going forward:

“Also, in that moment of jubilation [after Game 4], that moment of absolute joy, we have to talk about the elephant in the room — we just didn’t play well at all, and we put ourselves in that deficit. So while there is joy, there is also frustration that we even allowed ourselves to be in that kind of position, especially as much as the deficit was.”

On OG Anunoby’s Game 4 winner meaning within the New York sports fabric:

“You can’t spell God without OG. I tried to explain it to him, but you know OG barely gives you any reaction. So I don’t know if he’s understanding it or not. Like you said, it’s a great moment. It’s one of the best sports moments in New York history. But we’ve got to solidify it with one more win.”

Mikal Bridges

On the team’s focus entering Game 5:

“I think it’s pretty easy for us. I think that’s probably the most I can say. I think it’s pretty easy for us. As a player, we know our job’s not finished. Yeah, we’re ready.”

Mitchell Robinson

On the Knicks’ mindset entering Game 5:

“We’re still desperate. It ain’t over. Until it’s said and done, that’s got to be our mindset going into everything.”

On the Game 4 win:

“Getting that win the other night was truly amazing.”

Landry Shamet

On balancing the Game 4 celebration with staying focused for Game 5:

“You can enjoy it that night, that evening, obviously — soaking it up, with the magnitude of what happened. But quickly turning around and understand there’s more to be done. It’s a tough balance, but one that’s necessary, and I think our whole group’s done that.”

Jose Alvarado

On moving on from Game 4:

“It’s easy. We’re coming in and trying to win this game. This one is the most important game. It’s something — you know, we enjoyed it, it was a crazy game, and we love how we got the win. But at the end of the day, we gotta leave that behind us and come out here and worry about tomorrow.”

On Mike Brown’s trust in the bench:

“This bench is deep and he trusts everybody. Some days it’s my day, some days it’s somebody else’s day. … These are the times and moments you wait for.”

Miles McBride

On avoiding a Game 4 hangover:

“That’s the key. Can’t have a hangover of winning a game like that. Obviously it’s special, but we don’t want to repeat it. We want to go out there and take care of business.”

On staying confident amid his shooting slump:

“I’m always going to stay confident, knowing I can impact the game in a lot of different ways. I’m going to make shots. I’m never worried about that. … Anybody is capable of it, 1 through 15 on this team. We’re pushing each other to be better. That’s how our team has been. We’re motivators. We want to uplift everybody. I think having a team like that, you can do a lot of great things.”

OG Anunoby

On his Game 4 game-winner:

“It’s really cool. Just everyone has been telling me how much it means, and obviously I can see how much it means. It’s just really cool to be a part of it, and I’m very grateful. Everyone’s been telling me how much it means. I obviously see how much it means. It’s just really cool to be a part of it, and I’m very grateful.”

Mitch Johnson

On lessons learned from Game 4:

“I think that’s what gives someone a lot of clarity on what went well and what didn’t, what led to it. There’s a lot of times (when) themes of the game that may not necessarily show themselves in a box score on the surface level, that when you start peeling back the layers, you start to understand the ripple effect, good and bad, of what you do or what you did.”

On the criticism of De’Aaron Fox’s Game 4 decisions:

“I think I’ve been fired 212 times and we’ve traded Fox 72 times. We still have to show up and play tomorrow, and I’ve got to coach. The people that matter, we bond together, we stick together through the highs and lows. De’Aaron Fox will have the basketball in his hands at the end of the game tomorrow, and I have the utmost confidence he’s going to deliver like he’s done countless times for us.”

On what went wrong in Game 4:

“It’s a good question. I think every game takes on different personalities. A lot of times when you watch the games back, with the level of detail that I would guess all staffs do, but I can speak for our staff, there’s so much that starts to happen, whether on a certain play before you make the shot or before the runs happen. I think that’s what gives someone a lot of clarity on what went well and what didn’t, what led to it. … When you start peeling back the layers, you start to understand the ripple effect, good and bad, of what you do or what you did.”

On his own shortcomings in Game 4:

“There [were] a lot of things that we did, where it felt like we could have put our energy into the right spots in that third quarter. Some things that I could have done to help that, as well. I think that quarter probably was the most disappointing for me. There’s some learning things in every quarter, don’t get me wrong, some things we want to be sharper with, better at, finish games. We weren’t as connected and disciplined as we should have been.”

On the need for better management of Wembanyama’s energy:

“Looking back on it, I do believe that I have to make sure that I help him have the energy required to finish the game as strong as he needs to finish the game. I think I could have done better in that regard. That’s not a number of minutes. That’s not meaning he’s going to play this many minutes tomorrow. It’s looking back on the game, and that game in itself, I got to make sure that I help with that. I think I could have been better in that regard looking back from that game.”

Victor Wembanyama

On the Spurs’ belief in a Finals comeback:

“Everybody thinks—everybody knows—that we’re gonna do it.

On taking the series one game at a time:

“I feel like we need to isolate that one game and take it one game at a time. I think it would be a mistake to waste our energy on multiple games. It’s one game at a time.”

On moving past Game 4:

“We’re very confident. I wouldn’t say it was so hard to, like, shake it off. Harder than any other game before, by far, for sure. I mean, now we’re over it. It’s the playoffs. There’s no time to regret things for too long.”

On the Game 4 collapse:

“Of course, there were 1,000 ways that we could have not lost that game. But it feels like there was a time to process that and really dwell on it, but not anymore.”

On what went wrong:

“Absolutely, greediness was [an issue for us]. I guess the general thing would be giving them less opportunities rather than [us] doing something incredible.”

On his showing fatigue:

“Definitely a factor. But it’s the playoffs. Everybody’s just as tired. I mean, it shouldn’t even be a factor in the game. I mean, now we’ve got two days between games. It’s not going to be a factor.”

On the egg-throwing incident:

“I don’t dislike it. Obviously, it’s not good at all. But it doesn’t bother me.”

On Mitch Johnson’s coaching:

“He understands people very well and knows how to speak to them. I am no exception. He knows how to speak to me. In-game, it feels like non-verbal communication as much as verbal because sometimes it’s loud, sometimes we’re far away. He knows what I need. He knows what I need to get to. I also know what he needs, what signals he needs. We’ve grown very much in that sense.”

On the wave of Knicks fans set to invade Frost Bank Center:

“No, it’s not a concern. I mean, we got good defense here in the crowd.”

De’Aaron Fox

On dealing with outside criticism after his endless Game 4 errors:

“It’s not like people have my phone number and can call me. I don’t watch those shows. It doesn’t matter.”

On believing in a Finals comeback:

“We still have this belief because we’ve seen it. We’ve seen it be done, that teams have come back from 3-1. I think even with those series, the games that they lost, they were losing by double digits. The games that we’re losing have all been close games. We still have that belief that we have a chance to win. But we’re taking this one game at a time. We’re not looking at it as we need to win three games. We need to win tomorrow, and then we give ourselves a chance to play another game. Then you look at that next game.”

On Knicks fans buying tickets in San Antonio and what to expect:

“People are making money. It’s the economy we live in. It’s the world we live in. Am I upset about it? No. Do I understand it? Sure. I don’t think that changes what happens on the court.”

Devin Vassell

On what the Spurs saw in film review:

“Just not executing [is what we saw on the film]. There were a lot of defensive mistakes that we made, just not communicating. Then, offensively, just staying in our game plan and not steering away from it. We got some good looks. But with our guards, with Fox and Steph [Castle] just putting pressure on the rim, we feel like when we put pressure on the rim it opens up everything. We’ll be all right.”

Keldon Johnson

On the Spurs’ confidence after the Game 4 collapse:

“It’s a tough one, a tough pill to swallow. I feel like we got comfortable, and things happen. But I think the main thing is that belief is there. We believe. Our belief is as high as ever.”

Stephon Castle

On a potential comeback from 3-1:

“I feel like we’ve made history all year, and we’ve proven that with our backs against the wall that we can step up. So, I don’t really expect this to be any different.”

On why the Spurs remain confident:

“I think just our confidence. We’ve had a 10-plus point lead in every single game. Just trying to stay poised throughout that and try to keep our foot on the gas really. I feel like once we get those leads, we start to play a little bit different, take our foot off the gas defensively. I just feel like we have to stay aggressive but be smart through it.”

Shaquille O’Neal

On the NBA’s next face of the league:

“You have to take it. If [Wembanyama] wins a championship, yes. If [Jalen] Brunson wins a championship, it’ll be Brunson. Face of the league ain’t something you pass on. You’ve got to go take it.”

On the fantasy scenario of facing Victor Wembanyama:

“Oh, stop it. Let’s talk desserts. He’s too light in the cakes for me. Stop it. But I’m not known for defense, so he probably would’ve scored a few points also. There’s no guarding me one-on-one, so you can’t ask me that question. He’s a great player. This is his time now. This is not about me.”

On enjoying Victor Wembanyama and Karl-Anthony Towns in the Finals:

“I love [Wembanyama] and I love KAT [Karl-Anthony Towns], so for me this is really good. Two big men battling it out. Let the best big man win. Usually in the Finals it’s all about guards. But these Finals are about two big men, so I have an affinity, a love, for both of them. So whoever wins, I’m happy for them both.”

Magic Johnson

On believing in the Spurs despite trailing 3-1:

“In NBA Finals history, one thing about the Spurs, they’re young, and I think they’re going to be okay. I think this series is going back to New York for Game 6. Listen, it wasn’t that they played bad. We have to understand that this team played great. They just gave the game away, and the Knicks took it.”

On why San Antonio should remain confident:

“So all you have to do is play like you did and not make the mistakes that you made, and you’re going to be okay. This team has played four great games. It’s just that the Knicks have a 3-1 lead because they executed in winning time. The Knicks have executed better than the Spurs. So if I’m the Spurs, I’m feeling good. Yeah, I lost, but I’m going home.”

On the Spurs’ mindset heading into Game 5:

“We correct some mistakes that we made, and we can win and make it a 3-2 series and come back to New York. They should be down about the fact that they didn’t execute in the fourth quarter.”

On Victor Wembanyama’s workload:

“And Coach Johnson made a huge mistake. When you’re up 20 at the end of the third quarter, he should have taken Victor out and said, ‘You get this timeout.’ Like Pat Riley used to tell me, ‘You’re going to get this timeout, and you’ll get another three or four minutes. Then I’ll put you back in to end the fourth quarter and the game.’ He should have taken Victor out because they had a big lead. You can rest him and bring him back in. Because he played so many minutes, he couldn’t take over the game.”

On Mike Brown and Jalen Brunson:

“And I think that’s why Mike Brown has been excellent for this team. He has not worn out Brunson. Brunson was able to finish the game, and it was just beautiful basketball. That shot will be remembered. But people better remember the block he made first. Because that block was a game-saving block as well. The point guard should have pulled it back out. De’Aaron Fox should have pulled it back.”

On the Knicks roster:

“I don’t want to hear no talk about Giannis [Antetokounmpo] or no other player coming to [the Knicks]. This is a great team. I’ve watched a lot of basketball — the way these guys love each other, they play for each other, pull for one another — you’re not going to see this anywhere else. They don’t out-talent you. Grit. Toughness. That’s how they beat you. And togetherness. That’s how they beat you.”

Jeremy Lin

On clearing the air with Carmelo Anthony:

“Basically I asked every last question I had: ‘did that happen? What happened there? What happened here?’ But it was honest. It was direct, it was honest and we were able to definitely clear the air. Obviously perception is reality in certain situations… And that’s the thing about that whole stretch was there was a lot that I was unsure about. And so the narratives come, but to be able to talk it out, I appreciate that.”

On how he wants his story remembered:

“And so my biggest thing was when I think back on my career, because I recently retired, I’ve never wanted my story to be me versus anybody else, which we had talked about. And I think at the end of all of this, if my name comes up or my story comes up and it’s me versus Melo or if we’re ever at a point where someone has to choose sides, then I think we failed.”

On wanting to stay with the Knicks:

“I’ve actually never spoken publicly about my exit from New York until today. And the only reason why is because now we have had that conversation. And so for me, it’s like I’m sitting there like, ‘I got to go back to New York. We got to find any which way.’ And New York, they could have offered me three years, nine million, but I didn’t even get that.”

On Houston’s contract offer:

“So I go to Houston, Houston gives me this offer and I’m like, I swear to you, I get on the phone with my agent and I’m like, ‘I don’t want to take it.’ He’s like, ‘You don’t have a choice.’”

Carmelo Anthony

On the Linsanity narrative:

“I had to figure my s***. I was injured. I was hurt. I had to think about how fast I’m going to come back, what I’m going to do, how the f*** I’m going to go help this team, how I got to lead this team. I’m in a different position than Lin is. So I got to deal with a whole bunch of s***. Forget being jealous of what he’s doing. I want him to keep going. Game win in D.C. Yo, keep going. Toronto. Yo, keep going.”

On answering Jeremy Lin’s questions:

“These was questions that was built up for 14 years that other people probably was adding on to your pressures and your mindset and your perspective. It took me to go through what I went through to have the time to come back and be at peace with being able to answer all your questions with actual facts.”

Isiah Thomas

On Victor Wembanyama dealing with more physicality than anyone on the court:

“Wemby has been the victim of some of the dirtiest s–t ever. I mean, people are grabbing and holding him. With Wemby, we’re allowing people to grab and hold him, knock him down. They literally have him locked up. With his demeanor, they’re lucky he hasn’t turned around and popped one of them in the face real quick. Big men, normally you don’t get to be this aggressive with them without them having the ability to retaliate, hold their temper and all of that.”

Juan Soto

On the Mets’ outlook:

“We still have a shot. We’re still here, and all the guys that are hurt are really close to being back, so I think it’s not as far as people think. I think it’s closer than what everybody is thinking or expecting.”

On attending the Knicks Finals games:

“It was a great feeling from the fans — how crazy they went, how loud they can get. It was impressive. It’s just a different feeling to be in there, you know, I felt like part of them. Those fans were paying attention to every little detail of the game, the back-and-forth, and that’s one of the things that made it special.”

On chasing another championship with the Mets:

“For me, I’m all-in, trying to get back to those big moments. It’s definitely not easy when you’re going through times like these, but we got to keep our heads up and keep going.”

Jose Reyes

On inviting OG Anunoby to Citi Field:

“Hey, OG Anunoby, happy for your success. Proud that you’re a Mets fan. The Mets and I would love to invite you to Citi Field to throw out a ceremonial first pitch. All the best, Jose Reyes.”

Open Thread: Spurs are hosting Game 5 watch parties in France and Mexico

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The 2026 NBA Finals has received some of the highest viewership in recent NBA history. These Finals are a global event, and as the Spurs continue to connect with their growing international fanbase in their mission to grow the game of basketball throughout the world, they have added watch parties in international markets.

Already, viewership is up 123% from last year boasting 23.2 M viewers. Wednesday night’s matchup at Madison Square Garden was the most watched NBA Finals Game 4 was the most watched since 1998.

Having New York has increased the interest compared to 2025’s small market matchup. And the addition of Victor Wembanyama has added viewers in France. So it makes sense that there will be a Spurs watch party there.

Per a Spurs press release:

“The San Antonio Spurs announced the organization will host free watch parties across multiple international markets for Game 5 of the NBA Finals on Saturday, June 13 as the team takes on the New York Knicks. The organization will activate free, comprehensive fan experiences for Spurs supporters in Paris, France, and Mexico City, Mexico to come together and root on the Silver and Black at local restaurants and bars in their city.”
 
Each watch party will feature giveaways, free refreshments and a chance to win Spurs Finals gear.

“Whether our fans are gathering in France, China, Mexico, Texas or around the world, we’re eager to welcome them into our Spurs family,” said RC Buford. “These watch parties create shared experiences that bring our global fanbase closer together and reflect the values of connection, community and belonging that have always defined our organization.”

Sunday, June 14 at 2:30 a.m. CET
Belushi’s at Paris Canal
159 Rue de Crimée, 75019 Paris, France

Saturday, June 13 at 6:30 p.m. CST
Pinche Gringo BBQ Warehouse
Calle Lago Iseo 296, Cuidad de
Mexico, Mexico

The organization will also support the NBA’s official watch party at NBA HoopPark, K11 Mall in Shenzhen, China.


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Analyst names best, worst NBA Draft fits for Mavericks

INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA - APRIL 04: Brayden Burries #5 of the Arizona Wildcats dribbles up the court against the Michigan Wolverines in the Final Four of the 2026 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament at Lucas Oil Stadium on April 04, 2026 in Indianapolis, Indiana. (Photo by Michael Reaves/Getty Images) | Getty Images

The Dallas Mavericks are narrowing down their search for the No. 9 overall pick in the 2026 NBA draft.

There are only a handful of prospects the Mavericks can choose from, especially with eight teams selecting ahead of them. One player who has been linked to the Mavericks consistently throughout the pre-draft process is Arizona guard Brayden Burries, who was named a top fit for the Mavericks by Bleacher Report analyst Zach Buckley.

“After the rookie season Cooper Flagg just authored, prospects should be lining up at the chance to be one of his long-term running mates,” Buckley wrote. “The Mavs could give Burries that opportunity, but they could also provide the playmaking and scoring support he’ll need right away with Kyrie Irving still on the roster and seemingly in the plans.“

Burries could be the shooting guard of the future for the Mavs, who need someone alongside Irving that can shoot. Putting as many high-level shooters around Flagg should be the goal for the future, and Burries could be the start of that complementary group around their star player.

For every player like Burries, there is someone like Houston guard Kingston Flemings, who might not be exactly what the Mavs need going into the draft.

“A backcourt featuring Flemings and Kyrie Irving would be tiny and exploitable on defense, especially against bigger guard groups,” Buckley wrote.

“There’s also a worry about whether Flemings or Cooper Flagg could summon enough three-point volume for the other to have the breathing room they need. Flemings’ burst only really works in a properly spaced offense, and Dallas was dreadful from three last season (29th in makes, 26th in percentage).”

The Mavericks need to have Irving in mind when building their roster for next season, but he shouldn’t be the priority. That being said, the Mavs aren’t really in position to put a player like Flemings on the roster without adding other pieces to the mix.

If they believe Flemings can be their point guard of the future, they should take him, but it should come with a lot of patience.

Mavs Moneyball community, who are your favorite prospects with the No. 9 overall pick? And who do you want the Mavs to avoid? Let us know in the comments section below.

Tarik Skubal returns for Detroit Tigers vs Cleveland Guardians

The Detroit Tigers dropped the opening game of their weekend series against the Cleveland Guardians, 3-2, on Friday night in a game that saw the good guys manage just two hits — both solo home runs — plus a good deal of bullpen action after Jack Flaherty left the game early with an injury.

Speaking of injuries, the Motor City Kitties get their star starter, left-hander Tarik Skubal, back from the injured list on Saturday looking to even things up against their American League Central rivals. Last time the 29-year-old took the mound was way back on April 29, when he lasted seven innings, giving up a pair of runs on five hits (one home run) and no walks while striking out seven Atlanta Braves on the road for a no-decision in a 4-3 loss.

Skubal last faced Cleveland in the AL Wildcard Game last year, in which he threw 7 2/3 frames of one-run ball on three hits and three walks while striking out a whopping 14 en route to a no-decision in the Tigers’ 2-1 victory.

Up against him for the Guardians is fellow southpaw Joey Cantillo, who has been absolutely shelled over his last three starts. Stretching across 11 innings, the 26-year-old posted a 12.27 ERA and 9.28 FIP over that trio of appearances, allowing 18 hits (five home runs) and nine walks while striking out 12, earning a pair of losses in the process.

Cantillo previously faced Detroit on May 21 at Comerica Park, where he shut the Tigers out over 5 2/3 innings, surrendering three hits and three walks while striking out six for his fourth win of the year. That was also his last good start before that horrid stretch, so…

Take a look below at how the two match up on Saturday afternoon.

Detroit Tigers (29-41) vs. Cleveland Guardians (38-33)

Time (ET): 4:10
Place: Progressive Field, Cleveland, Ohio
SB Nation Site:Covering the Corner
Media: Detroit SportsNet, MLB.TV, Tigers Radio Network

Game 71: LHP Tarik Skubal (3-2, 2.70 ERA) vs. LHP Joey Cantillo (4-3, 4.57 ERA)

PlayerGIPK%BB%GB%FIPfWAR
Skubal743.127.13.645.92.111.6
Cantillo1467.021.612.441.05.020.2

SKUBAL

CANTILLO

Mets Daily Prospect Report, 6/13/26: Brooklyn puts up a baker’s dozen

SURPRISE, AZ - OCTOBER 24: Nick Morabito #3 of the Scottsdale Scorpions runs to first base during the game between the Scottsdale Scorpions and the Surprise Saguaros at Surprise Stadium on Friday, October 24, 2025 in Surprise, Arizona. (Photo by Jill Weisleder/MLB Photos via Getty Images) | MLB Photos via Getty Images

Triple-A: Syracuse Mets (34 – 33)

BUFFALO 4, SYRACUSE 1 (BOX)

Nick Morabito drove in the only run for Syracuse, but also collected a golden sombrero in a pretty poor offensive team showing. Nate Lavender, who got a lot of talk as a potential major league bullpen arm this year gave up two earned runs on two hits and a walk in one inning of work.

Double-A: Binghamton Rumble Ponies (24 – 37)

BINGHAMTON 7, SOMERSET 5 (BOX)

Chris Suero and Nick Lorusso both went yard for the Rumble Ponies, with Lorusso driving in five overall. The bullpen gave up just one run over five innings.

High-A: Brooklyn Cyclones (24 – 36)

BROOKLYN 13, FREDERICK 4 (BOX)

The Cyclones uncorked 13 runs, with all but one starter getting a hit and seven starters driving in runs. Colin Houck, Corey Collins, and John Bay all went deep for Brooklyn.

Low-A: St. Lucie Mets (28 – 33)

ST. LUCIE 2, PALM BEACH 1 (BOX)

Four pitchers all went at least two innings, with a collective eleven strikeouts. DH Jackson Hauge accounted for all the offense, driving in both runs on a double in the eighth inning.

Rookie: FCL Mets (11 – 16)

FCL MARLINS 4, FCL METS 3

DSL Mets Orange (5 – 4)

DSL METS ORANGE 9, DSL ARIZONA RED 3

DSL Mets Blue (5 – 4)

DSL MIAMI 6, DSL METS BLUE 3 (BOX)

STAR OF THE NIGHT

Nick Lorusso

GOAT OF THE NIGHT

Hayden Senger

Phillies news: Gabriel Rincones, Adolis Garcia, Tarik Skubal

TORONTO, ON - JUNE 08: Adolis García #53 of the Philadelphia Phillies runs to first base after hitting a home run during a game against the Toronto Blue Jays at Rogers Centre on June 8, 2026 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo by Vaughn Ridley/Getty Images) | Getty Images

Imagine being Gabriel Rincones, Jr.

You’re told that you’re headed to Milwaukee as a injury replacement for Adolis Garcia, that you’ll make your major league debut in the first game you are with the team.

Then you see the starting pitcher that will be on the mound for the Brewers.

On to the links.

Phillies news:

MLB news:

Sal Frelick deserves more time

Milwaukee Brewers right fielder Sal Frelick (10) reacts to the strike during the fifth inning of the game against the St. Louis Cardinals on Wednesday May 27, 2026 at American Family Field in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. | Jovanny Hernandez / Milwaukee Journal Sentinel / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images

This has not been a good season for Sal Frelick. He has struggled at the plate. Even more alarmingly, he has struggled in the field. People are speculating as to whether he’s injured. And when the Brewers secured the signature of Luis Lara—who has been red hot all season at Triple-A Nashville—earlier this week, they gave themselves an obvious candidate to take some of Frelick’s playing time.

Frelick is an easy target right now. His at-bats don’t look good. He has never hit for power, so he’s not offering value as a low-average, high-homer guy akin to Gary Sánchez. Previously, living with Sal’s struggles at the plate wasn’t hard to do; he was a Gold Glove-winning outfielder in 2024 and still solidly above average out there last season. He has generally been a good baserunner (which, it should be said, continues to be the case this season).

But, contrary to another struggling veteran on the Brewers right now, Frelick shouldn’t be completely given up on. I’m not ready to pull the plug in order to hand his job over to Lara quite yet. In his time with the Brewers, Frelick—who is still only 26 years old—has earned a little patience.

That being said, the concerns are real and should not be ignored. Let’s go through it.

Offense

Take a look at Frelick’s Statcast page for 2026. Then take a look at Frelick’s Statcast page for 2025. What’s different?

The answer: not much. What is true is that Frelick’s Statcast page is ugly. There’s a lot of blue. His exit velocities, barrel percentage, hard-hit percentage, expected slugging, all of that kind of stuff, are all bad. He’s in the bottom 10 percent in most of them.

But what’s weird is that he was bad at all those things last year, too. This season, Frelick is batting .228/.299/.311. Last year, he hit .288/.351/.405. So what’s different?

Frelick is still one of the best players in the league at not striking out. He’s actually been quite a bit better this season at not chasing. According to Statcast, he is squaring up the ball at an elite clip—he is maximizing theoretical exit velocity on the swings that he is taking—something he did well last season, too.

Unfortunately, a major factor isn’t allowing Frelick to maximize that high square-up percentage: he’s hitting too many ground balls.

A simple indicator is batting average on balls in play. In Frelick’s first three seasons with the Brewers, he had BABIP numbers of .286, .306, and .317. This year, it’s .243. A more specific indicator is the ground balls. In 2024 and 2025, Frelick was just about league average in line drive rate and he was a little below the league average in ground ball percentage. This season, his ground balls have jumped (GB = ground ball, LD = line drive, FB = fly ball):

  • 2024: 48.0 GB%, 24.8 LD%, 18.0 FB%
  • 2025: 46.7 GB%, 23.2 LD%, 20.2 FB%
  • 2026: 53.8 GB%, 17.9 LD%, 17.9 FB%

Digging further into Frelick’s batted ball data, we can understand why the groundballs are happening. Statcast breaks down batted ball quality into six different categories: weak, topped, under, flare/burner, solid, and barrel. Barrels are what you want—that’s the best quality of contact—and while Frelick is slightly below last year’s 3.1%, at 2.2% he’s actually slightly above league average this year (2.1%). He’s making slightly less weak contact (the worst kind) than last season. He’s getting under the ball slightly more often, but not alarmingly so.

The big problem is his percentage of balls that are “topped.” This matches the eye test: Frelick is hitting a ton of balls that go directly into the ground. At 42.4%, Frelick is more than four percent higher than the league average, and more than seven percent higher than he was last season. We see this is in his launch angle data, too: at an average launch angle of 8.3 degrees, Frelick is well below last season’s 12.1 degrees and even further below the league average (12.5 degrees).

Another thing that might be preventing Frelick from maximizing his square-up percentage is that he has a slow bat. But a slow bat and a good square-up percentage can work for players who can elevate the ball: Luis Arraez is has first-percentile bat speed with a 100th-percentile square-up rate. But Arraez’ 14.6 degree launch angle dwarfs Frelick’s 8.3 degrees, and he’s hitting way fewer ground balls (43% versus 29.4% line drives and 24.2% fly balls).

Basically what the Statcast data tells us is that Frelick is the same hitter he was last year except for one crucial problem: he’s hitting over the top of balls way too often. This accounts for his poor launch angles, his high ground ball percentage, and his low BABIP.

The fact that Frelick is so poor in terms of exit velocity, barrel percentage, expected slugging, etc. means that he has very little wiggle room. If he’s not hitting line drives like he was last season, he’s just going to ground into a ton of outs. That’s true of anybody, but even more so with Frelick, as his low-exit-velocity grounders are less likely to sneak through the infield.

Whether you think this is good news or bad news depends on how you saw the Frelick of 2025, the one who finished seventh in the league in batting average and had a 111 OPS+. If you think that that version of Frelick was good and had a repeatable approach, then you should be optimistic that some adjustments to his bat path should help him stop topping the ball and he can return to being that player. But if you saw Frelick’s 2025 performance as mostly luck-based, and that all the blue on his Statcast page was a major red flag, then you will think that this year’s version of Frelick is simply what last year’s version should have been.

Defense

The defensive question is far more alarming. Simply stated, if Frelick isn’t offering anything in the field, his bat isn’t good enough to be a starting corner outfielder for a good team, and that was probably true even last season when things were going well.

For the purposes of this discussion, let’s use Statcast’s defensive metric, Outs Above Average. Frelick has been a good outfielder the past two seasons by OAA. But it sees him as poor in 2026 (as does Baseball Reference’s preferred metric Defensive Runs Saved, for what it’s worth). Statcast has Frelick in just the 28th percentile in fielding run value. That’s an alarming drop; Frelick was in the 85th percentile in 2025 and 79th in 2024 via the same metric.

The issues are all over. Frelick was in the 90th and 93rd percentile in range in 2024 and 2025, respectively. This year he’s in the 48th percentile. His arm has suffered, too: Statcast has two numbers to grade a player’s arm, “arm value” and “arm strength.” In 2026, Frelick is in the 9th percentile in arm value and in the 44th in arm strength; that’s down from 71st and 66th in 2025 and 66th and 68th in 2024.

Why has this happened? There has been a lot of speculation that Frelick, a player who plays with no real regard for his own body, is playing hurt. He does seem to react with pain at certain times during games. But if this is the case, it’s not really hurting his sprint speed, which you would expect to be an accompanying issue. Frelick’s speed as measured by Statcast is down slightly, but not much—he’s still in the 86th percentile in sprint speed (he was 87th last season).

If Frelick’s speed is intact, I’m not sure how to explain his diminished defensive value in right field. There could be an injury that’s affecting his upper body, but not his legs—that would be supported by the fact that some of the speculation about Frelick’s potential injury being related to his oblique. That could explain the dip in the value of his throwing, but it doesn’t really explain why he is or isn’t getting to balls that he used to be catching.

He has earned some patience

Whether there’s some positive regression in Frelick’s future or not, we do not know. Fans are getting frustrated and Lara is making waves in Nashville. But Frelick didn’t turn 26 until April. He’s got two years of solid major-league baseball behind him. He was a 3.6 fWAR player last season. By all accounts he is a great teammate, he works hard, and he is clearly one of Pat Murphy’s favorites.

There are signs that Frelick is improving, too. It’s only 10 games, but in June Frelick is hitting .303/.378/.394. The pessimists will point out that his xwOBA (.293) in that span is only 14 points higher than his season total (.279), and he is outperforming it by 55 points (.345 wOBA).

If Frelick is injured, then he should stop trying to play through it, go on the injured list, and let Lara have a chance. But it’s worth remembering that Lara is no sure thing, either; he’d be a defensive improvement over this version of Frelick, surely, but there’s no guarantee that he would outperform even Frelick’s 71 OPS+ this season.

In the case of the Brewers’ infield, I advocated for moving on from Luis Rengifo and giving Cooper Pratt the shortstop job. Sal Frelick isn’t Rengifo. Rengifo is on a one-year contract and everyone has known since the day that he signed that there were big prospects behind him. Frelick is a bigger part of Milwaukee’s past and he can still be a part of their future if he turns things around, and the Brewers should give him the chance to do so. He’s earned it.

What do the new swing tracking metrics from Baseball Savant tell us about the Red Sox?

ST PETERSBURG, FLORIDA - JUNE 9: Payton Tolle #70 of the Boston Red Sox pitches in the bottom of the first inning against the Tampa Bay Rays at Tropicana Field on June 9, 2026 in St Petersburg, Florida. (Photo by Parker S. Freedman/Getty Images) | Getty Images

WARNING: This is going to be nerdy.

Baseball Savant published new public bat tracking statistics this week that cover the last three seasons. I have no idea where this rabbit hole is going to lead me, but I have a notebook full of initial ideas to explore, so that’s what we’re going to do here today.

Mike Petriello put out a primer on the new metrics here. You should read it. If you don’t want to do that, the gist is that the new metrics track the bat during a swing in relation to the ball. They measure how often hitters swing early or late, above or below the ball, and inside or outside the ball. Basically, are you swinging where you’re supposed to in order to make solid contact? We have this by count, pitch type, handedness, month, season (2023-present), venue, team, astrological sign, Hogwarts house, and more. Again, I don’t know what I’m going to find, but let’s dive in.


Four-seam fastballs are designed to get hitters to swing late and swing under the ball primarily. I’ve harped on how good Payton Tolle’s fastball is time and time again. Unsurprisingly, 62% of swings against his fastball have been underneath the ball, the 10th highest mark out of 289 qualifiers. That number is up from 45% last season. Why? Probably because of the addition of his sinker. That’s important because, despite his elite velocity, hitters are geared up for fastballs. They’re on time 72% of the time, 183rd of 289 qualifiers. Last season, without a second fastball, hitters knew both where and when to swing, which is a recipe for disaster. This season, there’s more pause about where to swing, and the contact quality has weakened.

Elsewhere, Brayan Bello has had a trainwreck of a season. Last year, he was incredibly effective at using his sinker to get out of jams. Hitters were “tied up” by 36% of the sinkers he threw last year. This season, that number is only 22%. What changed? Where he was throwing them.

In 2025, 55% of the sinkers he threw to righties were on the inner third of the plate and in. This season, only 46% of them were in that area. The hard hit rate against the pitch rose from 35% to 53% over that span. That hasn’t been Bello’s only issue this season, but it’s certainly been one of them.

What about great pitches? Garrett Whitlock’s slider returns “flawed swings” on 30% of swings. That means the hitter is not on time, lined up, or centered with his bat. If you think about the swing in three dimensions, timing, height, and width, it’s a swing that was 0-for-3. On whiffs, hitters miss by an average of 7.3 inches. That’s the 13th-largest average miss in baseball. Pretty good!

Let’s talk about cutters. The Red Sox love them, and they function in different ways. You can throw them back door to an opposite-handed hitter, trying to land for a called strike. They can also be used up and in to opposite-handed hitters, trying to jam them for weak contact. The former requires hitters not to swing, so these new stats don’t give us much information there. The latter requires one of two things to happen. Either the pitch moves more towards the glove side than the hitter expects, or they swing late and can’t get the barrel to the ball.

Brayan Bello’s cutter is a weird one. Against left-handed hitters, it has a huge swinging strike rate of 22.1%. The swing tracking numbers show us that lefties are regularly early (53% of swings, the second-highest rate among RHP to LHH), and never tied up (0%). Because they’re early so often, Bello needs the ball to really be in on their hands where they’ll have a hard time keeping it fair. Most of the swings, however, have been on pitches over the plate, allowing lefties to lift and pull the ball, leading to huge damage.

Payton Tolle’s cutter has been great — 31% of right-handed swings registered as “tied up”. Righties haven’t barreled the ball up at all, and the only extra-base hit against it was this double.

Note:I’m writing this during Tolle’s start against the Rays. Another hitter just bounced a cutter off the plate for a double. Baseball is so strange.

Ranger Suarez’s cutter also has a 21% tie up rate against righties, though the whiff rate is much lower. Hitters are late on 25% of their swings, allowing the ball to get in on their hands. For Tolle, they’re early 20% of the time as they look for something harder, leading to whiffs. There are at least two ways to skin a cat.

Speaking of Suarez, his sinker has been excellent at jamming lefties, with a tied-up rate of 24%. That’s lagging behind Garrett Crochet, whose 40% mark against lefties is among the best in baseball. Connelly Early isn’t far behind him at 36%, which contributes to his sinker’s 56.5% ground ball rate versus lefties.

In the bullpen, Tayron Guerrero is throwing his sinker by everyone — 38% of swings are late. Believe it or not, that isn’t how Aroldis Chapman is getting his whiffs. Hitters are on time 84% of the time against Chapman’s sinker and 79% of the time against his four-seam. It’s the movement that’s getting them — 52% of swings are underneath his sinker, 41% are under his four-seam.

Who haven’t I talked about yet? Sonny Gray? His four-seam is hit at times, but it also does a good job tying up lefties. It’s not a traditional high-vertical four-seam; it has some cut action to it, allowing it to get in on lefties. His cutter also gets in on lefties, because it has even more cut than the four-seam. His sweeper and curveball both induce incredibly ugly swings, like this one that Salvador Perez missed by literally over two feet.

On the hitting side, Masataka Yoshida leads the team in “Perfect Contact” with a 38% rate. Caleb Durbin is second at 33%. Neither guy is striking out; they clearly each have great control of the barrel. Neither guy has high-end bat speed, though, so despite being on time and lined up, they’re not doing a ton of damage. Wilyer Abreu has been late against fastballs, and the results reflect that. He has a 25% whiff rate and .219 batting average against them.

Alright, I think that’s enough meandering from me. This stuff isn’t the end-all be-all of analysis, but it helps to be able to confirm what you think you know, or give context to why someone might be slumping. Go check out the leaderboard yourself and let me know what you find in the comments. Maybe you’ll be able to fix the offense, or salvage a pitcher. I don’t have any pull in the organization, but once I wrote that Payton Tolle should add a sinker, and he did, so maybe someone is paying attention. Or maybe they aren’t, and they came to that conclusion on their own. I also wrote that Brayan Bello would be okay as a starter, and he gave up 75 runs in the first inning the very next day, so what do I know? Okay, I’m done meandering for real now. I hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I enjoyed writing it.

Today on Pinstripe Alley – 6/13/26

TORONTO, CANADA - JUNE 12: Max Schuemann #30 of the New York Yankees reacts to striking out in the eighth inning in an MLB game at the Rogers Centre against the Toronto Blue Jays on June 12, 2026 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo by Tara Walton/Getty Images) | Getty Images

The Yankees’ house of horrors over the past year has been Rogers Centre — they dropped out of first place in the division last year after getting swept there and never got it back, and then got pummeled in the postseason when they advanced to the ALDS and had to face them again. Now, heading north of the border for the first time this season, they got down in a hurry as Ryan Weathers coughed up multiple homers and the offense couldn’t catch up. Putting insult to injury, Trent Grisham left the game with a hamstring strain that could sideline him for a bit and challenge the team’s suddenly-thin depth in the outfield.

We’ve got a frontloaded day with a mid-afternoon tilt on the schedule, so let’s set the stage. Matt opens and ends our day, first covering the results from our latest Reacts polling before coming back to riff on the concept of the 82-0 and 162-0 games that gained mass popularity recently. I’ll be back to go over the latest Rivalry Roundup results with the Rays threatening to retake sole possession of first with New York’s loss, Jeff recounts the tale of the phantom Yankee David Parrish on his birthday, Michael examines Camilo Doval’s perplexing results, and Andrés goes over what could and likely isn’t sustainable from Ryan McMahon’s recent stretch of play.

Today’s Matchup:

New York Yankees at Toronto Blue Jays

Time: 3:07 p.m. EST

TV: YES, Sportsnet, TVA Sports

Venue: Rogers Centre, Toronto, ON

Questions/Prompts:

1. What do the Yankees do in the outfield if Trent Grisham is sidelined for a decent length of time?

2. Is tonight the night, will the Knicks become NBA champions for the first time since 1973?

Bryce Rainer powers Whitecaps, Clark and Anderson go yard for the Hens

St. Paul Saints 10, Toledo Mud Hens 9 (box)

Dylan File was mauled in this one, and while the Hens fought back, it wasn’t quite enough on Friday.

File gave up six runs over the first four innings of work to put the Hens behind from the start.

Max Clark absolutely hammered a solo shot to right center field in the bottom of the first, and a leadoff single from Trei Cruz in the second led to a run on a Tyler Gentry double. In the third, Gage Workman doubled, Ben Malgeri walked, and Hao-Yu Lee smoked an RBI double to plate Workman. A passed ball brought Malgeri home, and it was a 4-4 game after three.

File then allowed two more runs in the fourth, and a three-run inning against Matt Seelinger followed. It was a 9-4 game headed into the bottom of the fifth.

Malgeri and Lee led off the bottom of the fifth with walks, and Eduardo Valencia singled in one run. Gentry singled in Lee and Valencia after a wild pitch allowed them to advance 90 feet. That made it 9-7 Saints, and Max Anderson cracked his fifth home run to the opposite field in the sixth to pull the Hens within a run.

Unfortunately, Nick Sandlin leaked a run in the seventh with some help from a Valencia passed ball. That would prove the diffference in this one. Valencia singled in Malgeri in the bottom of the eighth, but with two on base, the rally died via a Jace Jung strikeout, and the Hens couldn’t mount another push in the ninth.

Clark: 2-5, R, RBI, HR, BB

Anderson: 3-6, R, RBI, 2B, HR

Lee: 2-4, R, RBI, 2B, BB, K

File: 3.2 IP, 6 ER, 7 H, 2 BB, 3 K

Coming Up Next: The Saints lead the series 3-1, with a 7:05 p.m. ET first pitch set for Saturday night.

Erie SeaWolves 13, Akron RubberDucks 8 (box)

The SeaWolves, err the Flagship City Kitties, pounded out 15 hits to survive a rough game from the bullpen and take down Akron again on Friday.

Akron jumped on Tanner Kohlhepp for two in the first, beat up on Eric Silva for four runs in the third and fourth innings, and then got to Ryan Harvey for two runs. However, the offense kept up, and Yosber Sanchez and Luke Taggart eventually locked down the RubberDucks over the final four innings as the offense poured it on.

The SeaWolves got going in the third as Izaac Pacheco reached on an error to lead off the inning, and Peyton Graham singled. Aaron Antonini stepped in and crushed a three-run shot. Seth Stephenson’s speed forced an error, and he went first to third on a Brett Callahan ground out. John Peck doubled him in to tie the game 4-4.

In the bottom of the fourth, they had to kickstart another comeback. Graham drilled a two-out double to center and scored on an Antonini single. A wild pitch moved Antonini to second, and Stephenson singled him to third. Callahan kept the line moving with a single to center off the trademark, scoring Antonini.

It was 8-6 Akron in the bottom of the sixth, when Stephenson again reached on an infield error. Callahan walked, and Peck singled in Stephenson. Thayron Liranzo ripped a double into the right field corner to plate Callahan and Peck, and finally they had the lead at 9-8. They wouldn’t look back.

After the Ducks went back to the pen, Andrew Jenkins greeted new reliever Reid Johnston with an RBI single to make it 10-8. A Stephenson leadoff double in the eighth sparked another three-run rally as the SeaWolves pulled away for good.

Stephenson: 3-5, 3 R, 2B, K

Callahan: 2-4, 2 R, RBI, BB, SB

Peck: 3-4, R, 3 RBI, 2B

Liranzo: 1-4, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2B, BB, K

Graham: 2-5, 2 R, 2B, 2 K

Coming Up Next: The SeaWolves will look for their six straight victory on Saturday at 6:05 p.m. ET.

West Michigan Whitecaps 8, Lake County Captains 6 (box)

Carlos Marcano was rocked in his start, but the bats heated up and Bryce Rainer came through with a two-run homer in the ninth to win on Friday.

Marcano gave up two-run homers in both the first and the second innings. That was the end of his night, with the Whitecaps down 4-0 early. Luke Stofel and Carlos Lequerica allowed single runs in the fourth and fifth.

At that point it was 6-2 Captains after the ‘Caps scored two in the top of the third. Samuel Gil led off the inning with a single and Junior Tilien and Juan Hernandez both reached on errors. An Andrew Sojka sacrifice fly scored Gil, and a wild pitch plated Tilien.

Into the seventh it was still 6-2, but in the top of the inning, Tilien singled, and Hernandez and Jackson Strong each walked. A Sojka ground out scored Tilien. Garrett Pennington then singled in Hernandez and Strong. That prompted a call to the bullpen for the Captains, but Bryce Rainer greeted the new reliever with a laser beam the opposite way for a double, and a pair of walks forced in the tying run.

C.J. Weins and Thomas Bruss did a nice job locking down the Captains over the final three innings, and in the top of the ninth, Pennington reached on yet another Captains’ error, and Rainer smoked a two-run shot over the wall in left center field to take an 8-6 lead. Bruss collected his first Double-A save with a quick bottom of the ninth.

Rainer: 2-5, R, 2 RBI, 2B, HR

Pennington: 1-4, 2 R, 2 RBI, BB

Marcano: 2.0 IP, 4 ER, 6 H, 2 BB, 4 K

Coming Up Next: The series is tied headed into Saturday’s 7:00 p.m. ET matchup.

Clearwater Threshers 4, Lakeland Flying Tigers 2 (box)

A three-run shot allowed by Ali Tanner was the difference in this one as neither team swung the bats too well.

The Flying Tigers struck first, as Jordan Yost walked, stole second, and scored on a two-out Carson Rucker single. A Zach MacDonald single followed, and Anibal Salas walked to load the bases. Javier Osorio was hit by a pitch, scoring Rucker, but that was all they’d get. 2-0 Flying Tigers.

Meanwhile, Alistair Tanner was cruising for three innings, allowing just a hit batsman. That crumbled in the fourth, as a pair of walks was followed by a three-run homer from Jonathan Hogart. 3-2 Threshers.

Jatnk Diaz hit a batter and then allowed a double to make it 4-2 in the bottom of the eighth. The Flying Tigers didn’t generate many scoring opportunities, and both bullpens pitched well overall to wrap this one up.

Yost: 1-3, R, 2B, BB, SB

Rucker: 2-4, R, RBI, 2 K

Tanner (L, 3-4): 4.0 IP, 3 ER, H, 2 BB, 4 K

Coming Up Next: The series is tied up heading into a 6:30 p.m. ET matchup on Saturday.

FCL Tigers 8, FCL Phillies 4 (box)

Paul Wilson made his second appearance of the season, and while he didn’t have much control, it’s just good to see him back on the mound. He walked three and allowed a pair of runs to the Phillies in a short 1.1 IP outing. RHP Cale Wetwiska, who was fairly impressive early on this season, made a scoreless, two inning rehab appearance in this one as well. RHP Alemain Cruz took over and was great, spinning four innings of one-hit ball without a walk, while punching out seven.

Cris Rodriguez had a pair of RBI knocks in this one, while Steven Madero and especially Angel de los Santos had good days at the plate.

De los Santos: 3-4, 3 R, 2B, 2 BB, 2 SB

Rodriguez: 2-5, 3 RBI, K, SB

Wilson: 1.1 IP, 2 ER, H, 3 BB, 2 K

Cruz (W, 1-1): 4.0 IP, 0 R, H, 0 BB, 7 K

Cavs final report card: Nae’Qwan Tomlin

CLEVELAND, OH - MAY 3: NaeQwan Tomlin #35 of the Cleveland Cavaliers looks on before the game against the Toronto Raptors during Round One Game Seven of the 2026 NBA Playoffs on May 3, 2026 at Rocket Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2026 NBAE (Photo by Lauren Leigh Bacho/NBAE via Getty Images) | NBAE via Getty Images

Nae’Qwan Tomlin’s emergence as a helpful fill-in rotation player was a pleasant surprise for the Cleveland Cavaliers. This led to his two-way deal being converted to a standard contract midway through the season.

All grades are based on our usual expectations for each player. A “B” represents that player meeting their standard.

Regular Season Stats

  • 5.8 points
  • 2.9 rebounds
  • 0.8 assists
  • 47.8% FG
  • 23.5% 3PT FG
  • 77% FT
  • 64 games

Making the jump from a two-way deal to a standard contract doesn’t happen as often as you’d think.

There are 90 NBA two-way slots available, and far more than 90 players who occupy those positions throughout the season. Since these are non-guaranteed deals, teams are pretty quick to cut and sign players to these deals.

This year, only 31 players had their two-way contracts converted to a standard deal for at least the rest of the season. Tomlin was among that group.

Tomlin’s journey to this spot was unconventional to say the least. He didn’t play organized basketball until college, and then played for four teams in five years. Three of those years were spent at smaller juco schools.

He made the Cleveland Charge’s roster heading into the 2024-25 season, but wasn’t a regular rotation at the start of the year. He eventually worked his way into the rotation, then became a starter, and ended the year on a two-way deal.

That progression continued this season. Tomlin worked his way up after the Cavs were decimated with injuries. He made the most of those opportunities as he became a fixture in the rotation throughout the season, and was even a spot starter in three games.

Tomlin’s athleticism and hustle stood out on a team that needed both of those qualities. He was an impactful offensive rebounder and an explosive finisher in the paint when given a runway to do so.

The increased playing time also exposed some of the shortcomings in Tomlin’s game.

First of all, the outside shooting is an issue. Tomlin spent many of his half-court possessions stationed in the corner, but was mostly a non-threat as a shooter. He finished last among qualified forwards in corner three-point percentage as he knocked down just 24% of his corner triples.

This was an issue because Tomlin showed that he doesn’t have the handle or playmaking capabilities to be an on-ball creator. It’s difficult to find a consistent half-court role if you can’t either pass, dribble, shoot, or be a vertical threat at an average to high level.

This left Tomlin as mostly someone who could attack in transition or finish off cuts from the corner. Both are useful, but not ideal as the basis for an offensive package.

Defensively, Tomlin fouled far too much. He had the worst foul percentage among forwards in the league, translating to 4.5 fouls per 36 minutes.

Fouls for a forward usually come from being out of position or selling out for blocks. Tomlin’s issues came from both. He struggled to keep wings in front of him defensively. And even when he was in the right position, he was too susceptible to pump fakes.

Tomlin will need to figure out how to play defense without fouling as much as he did this year if he wants to be a rotation-caliber player. It’s difficult to justify playing someone who fouls this much, who also isn’t a rim deterrent in a meaningful way.

Despite the need for improvement, it’s undeniable that this was a successful year for Tomlin. Every player on a two-way deal in the league’s entire goal for the year is to earn a standard contract. Tomlin did that.

The next step is refining his game on both ends so that he can earn a second NBA deal.

Grade: A

Joe Mazzulla’s offseason trips reveal the coach behind the caricature

ABU DHABI, UAE - OCTOBER 3: Head Coach Joe Mazzulla of the Boston Celtics speaks to the media during media availability as part of 2024 NBA Global Games Abu Dhabi at Etihad Arena on October 3, 2024 in Abu Dhabi, The United Arab Emirates. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2024 NBAE (Photo by Brian Babineau/NBAE via Getty Images) | NBAE via Getty Images

Joe Mazzulla could have been anywhere.

He could have been back home in Rhode Island, decompressing after a Celtics season that started with everyone lowering expectations because of Jayson Tatum’s Achilles tear and ended with everyone furious because those lowered expectations had somehow turned into 56 wins and a blown 3-1 lead to Philadelphia.

He could have been holed up in the Red Auerbach Center, watching film of a missed weak-side rotation from February with the emotional urgency of a man solving a murder. He could have been in Costa Rica again, walking barefoot through the jungle with a chess prodigy, because apparently the rest of us have been going about vacation all wrong.

Instead, he was in Portugal with Neemias Queta.

Chris Forsberg of NBC Sports Boston wrote a great piece this week on Mazzulla’s offseason travel, reporting that the Celtics head coach was spotted in both Omaha, Nebraska, and Lisbon, Portugal during the first week of June while spending time with Baylor Scheierman and Queta. Forsberg noted that the trip from Omaha to Lisbon is roughly 4,400 air miles, with no direct flights.

That is not a “swing by if you’re in the area” itinerary. That is multiple flights, time zones, airport coffee, stiff necks and at least one moment where you wake up in a hotel room with no idea what continent you’re in, let alone country.

And yet, there he was.

The more you look at these trips, the harder it becomes to treat them like irregular offseason moments. The point is not that Joe Mazzulla owns a passport or knows how to find Terminal B. The point is that connecting with his players on a human level seems to be an integral part of how he coaches.

The version of Joe we see is not the whole person

For most fans, Mazzulla is still understood through the strangest parts of his public personality.

The Brazilian jiu-jitsu practice with his sensei in the depths of the Celtics practice facility. The seemingly strong desire to one day execute a bank heist (either as the mastermind or safecracker). The refusal to answer simple questions in a simple way. 

It’s funny, and a lot of the shtick is probably intentional. Mazzulla has never seemed especially interested in making himself easier to understand from the outside.

In some ways, the weirdness has become the package. You see the vacant stare, the deadpan expression, the quote that sounds like it was translated from English to Latin and back again, and you think, yep, that’s Joe.

But there is another version of him that keeps showing up in the way Celtics players talk about him.

That version seems to be much quieter and more grounded. He spends time, listens, and shows up in places he does not have to be.

Brad Stevens once told NBC Sports Boston that a player who had been around Mazzulla for individual and small group work said, “That guy can say anything to me because of the amount of time he spends with me.” That line gets at something coaches can sometimes pretend is more complicated than it is. Players usually know when someone is only showing up because the job requires it. They also know when someone is showing up because they care enough to understand the full person standing in front of them.

Mazzulla seems obsessed with that part.

Not in a soft, sentimental way. After all, this is still Joe Mazzulla we’re talking about. I’m not expecting him to start every practice with a group hug and a guided meditation unless the meditation somehow involves combat breathing and clips of the 2008 Celtics defending the strong-side corner.

But his approach seems rooted in a pretty human idea: you cannot demand everything from people if you are not willing to meet them where they actually are.

The miles are the message

Mazzulla’s approach off the court helps explain why the trips matter.

Going to Portugal with Queta is more than a coach supporting a player during the offseason. Mazzulla wanted to see the places that shaped his starting center before he became a rotation piece in Boston. The journey is about understanding what basketball looked like for Queta before TD Garden, before the NBA, before he became part of the Celtics’ nightly calculus.

The same goes for Scheierman at Creighton. Mazzulla is not just checking in on a player’s jumper or making sure Baylor didn’t trim that stunning mullet. He’s walking into the environment that helped make the player make sense.

Those moments have the ability to change the texture of a relationship.

As fans, we spend a lot of time talking about schemes, rotations and late-game decisions because those are the things we can see. Fair enough. Mazzulla should be judged on those things too. The Celtics’ offense got stagnant at times. The playoff loss to Philadelphia deserves real scrutiny. There are fair questions about how Boston evolves next season, especially with Tatum working his way back and Brown coming off the heaviest leadership burden of his career (on top of the onslaught of trade rumors to start the offseason).

But the relationship piece is not some decorative side dish that sits next to the actual coaching. It is the coaching.

When Mazzulla challenges players, his words land differently down the road if they know he has invested in them beyond the box score. When he asks Queta to defend without fouling, Queta knows his coach cared enough to fly across an ocean and see where his basketball story started. When he asks Scheierman to sharpen the details of his game, Scheierman knows Mazzulla took the time to show up in the place where his confidence first became tangible.

That doesn’t read like performative culture-building to me. It feels like someone taking the human part of the job seriously.

It’s also probably exhausting. I don’t know what Joe Mazzulla’s sleep schedule looks like, and I’m not sure I want to. There is a nonzero chance he views jet lag as a weakness leaving the body. But even if he is wired differently than most people, at the end of the day, the choice to keep showing up for his players is still a choice.

The caring part is easier to miss

Al Horford has talked about the caring side of Mazzulla before, saying players can see that he cares about them as people and that his genuineness is part of why they respect him.

Horford also shared the story of Mazzulla returning to a neighborhood in the Dominican Republic to run a clinic for kids, with no cameras and no desire for credit. That story is more revealing than a thousand press conference clips. That type of Joe is not one we ever really get to see when the cameras are rolling and the mics are hot. It’s simply a coach doing something decent because he wanted to be there.

Maybe Mazzulla prefers for that side to stay quieter.

Perhaps it’s easier for everyone to focus on the odd quotes and the intensity and the killer whale metaphors. Maybe that lets him keep the more sincere parts of his coaching style protected. It would be very Joe to hide the softest part of himself behind the least normal possible packaging.

But the pattern is getting harder to miss.

He goes to the Dominican Republic for Horford. He asks to attend Chris Boucher’s baptism in Montreal. He spends time with Scheierman at Creighton. He travels with Queta to Portugal.

At a certain point, these stop feeling like isolated anecdotes and start looking like the foundation of how he leads.

Trust is built before anyone needs it

Mazzulla doesn’t have to earn trust with speeches in the huddle or locker room. He is earning it with presence at times when basketball isn’t the primary focus.

The Celtics need plenty from him next season. As Stevens noted in his end-of-season presser, tactical adjustments must be made. The roster needs better answers when playoff possessions get tight, especially with the New York Knicks establishing themselves as a legitimate threat heading into next season. Mazzulla must help Brown, White, Pritchard and the rest of the roster navigate a year that may once again require a different kind of identity while Tatum comes back for his first full season after the Achilles tear.

They also need the locker room to keep believing in him when he pushes, prods, challenges and occasionally says something that makes everyone in the room wonder if they accidentally walked into a philosophy seminar being held inside an MMA gym.

That is what the trips help explain.

The strange quotes get noticed. The care for his players tells the story.