13 for 13, Part 1: Assessing Celtics' core four starters through 13 games

13 for 13, Part 1: Assessing Celtics' core four starters through 13 games originally appeared on NBC Sports Boston

Finally … a chance for all of us to catch our breath.

The Boston Celtics endured a gauntlet of games to start the 2025-26 season, playing 13 times over 22 days. That included a brutal stretch with five games in seven nights, then culminated Wednesday with the team’s third back-to-back of the young season.

For the first time in the new campaign, the Celtics have multiple days off, and that feels like a good chance to take inventory on what we’ve seen as part of the team’s 6-7 seesaw start. 

The good news: Boston has a +4.1 point differential that ranks sixth in the Eastern Conference and 11th overall in the NBA, even if it’s aided by a couple of blowouts inside TD Garden. The bad news: The Celtics have a league-worst minus-2.1 win differential, suggesting that they’ve coughed up a couple winnable games based on their efficiency, per Cleaning the Glass data.

Or maybe that’s actually good news. While Boston’s record is somewhat pedestrian — team sits 11th overall in the Eastern Conference after Wednesday’s games — the Celtics could just as easily be nestled in the logjam behind the streaking, conference-leading Pistons, if not their lackluster 2-5 record in crunch-time games.

The Celtics are figuring out this new-look roster on the fly. Coach Joe Mazzulla has tinkered with both his starting lineup and who he’s leaned on off the bench, searching for the right combination of energy and rebounding around the team’s returning core. Maybe we should have expected late-game growing pains for a team learning how to navigate life while Jayson Tatum rehabs from Achilles surgery.

But we’d suggest that there’s been more good than bad, and sometimes the losses have masked some of the big-picture progress that has occurred, including some encouraging early returns from a handful of young players trying to carve out bigger roles.

With this three-day break, we’re taking a step back and offering 13 thoughts and 13 notable stats from the 13 roster players who have touched the floor for Boston so far this season through 13 games. 

In Part 1 of our three-part series, we’ll focus on Boston’s core four starters. Next up Friday will be the team’s key reserves.

1. Jaylen Brown

One number: 31.3

That’s the percentage of Brown’s shot attempts that have come in the long midrange (from 14 feet to the 3-point stripe) this season. It’s the highest output in the league, far ahead of even midrange-loving Kevin Durant (26.7 percent of shots in long mid-range).

But Brown has been thriving in that spot. He’s shooting 56 percent (44 of 79) from the long midrange and 51 percent on midrange shots overall. It feels like every midrange shot is going in as he hangs in the air above his defender.

Brown’s 3-point shot has been streaky, but he’s also showing off some nifty footwork while getting excellent looks in the midrange, and it’s a big-reason for his team-leading 27 points per game.

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Brown has been fantastic while elevating into a harsher spotlight while Tatum is rehabbing. He’s putting up All-NBA numbers and on solid efficiency while shooting 51.6 percent on 19.8 shots per game.

His assist numbers (4.2 per game) should climb a bit when his teammates start knocking down shots, but even when Boston was stumbling through an 0-3 start, it felt like Brown was doing everything he could to put this team in position to win.

After a rare misstep in Philly on Tuesday, Brown took the blame for missing a box out in a key spot. He’s been a true leader with both his play and his voice. 

2. Derrick White

One number: 29.2

That’s White’s 3-point percentage this season, down 9.2 percent from last season and 10.4 percent from Boston’s title campaign. His shot-making woes extend to other portions of the court — including at the rim (down 14 percent from last season) and in the short midrange (down 24 percent from last season). 

One thought

Would it be oversimplifying things to suggest that much of Boston’s woes can be traced solely to White’s shot-making? It probably would.

White has still been elite at generating “Stocks” (steals plus blocks) and ranks eighth in the NBA with 2.85 Stocks per game. His assist percentage is up and his turnover percentage is way down. The Celtics still have a solid +4.2 net rating in his team-high 422 minutes of floor time.

Still, we can’t help but wonder if White making 3s more consistently would mask some of the team’s missteps. We don’t suspect those shooting woes will persist, and White should eventually thrive, even with additional attention this season.

3. Payton Pritchard

One number: 108.2

That’s the total number of points per 100 shot attempts that Pritchard is averaging this season, which is down 20.6 points per 100 shots from last season, per Cleaning the Glass data.

Like White, Pritchard’s 3-point shot has evaded him at times this season, but he’s also found other ways to make up for those misses. 

One thought

Maybe a haircut is all Pritchard needed. Move over Jayson Tatum and his top-five designation after a fresh cut. Pritchard joked after Wednesday’s win over the Grizzlies — a game in which he was a team-best +42 in 30 minutes — that a haircut might have helped him play more like his usual self.

Like Brown, Pritchard has thrived in the midrange, shooting a staggering 61 percent on 59 attempts there. The Celtics have a +9.4 net rating in Pritchard’s 414 minutes of floor time.

Getting Pritchard and White back to playing like their more familiar selves would go a long way toward generating the consistency the Celtics are seeking. Pritchard is showing he can impact winning beyond the Sixth Man role.

4. Neemias Queta

One number: 99.2

That is Boston’s defensive rating in Queta’s 311 minutes of floor time, which is the second-best mark in the entire NBA among players with at least 10 games played, trailing only Oklahoma City’s Ajay Mitchell (98.6).

Queta is third in the NBA with a +18.1 net rating, trailing only the Denver tandem of Nikola Jokic (+21) and Christian Braun (+18.2). 

One thought

All eyes were on the frontcourt after Boston’s offseason changes and Queta has been an absolute rock there while logging the lion’s share of center minutes for Boston.

Queta is averaging 8.9 points and 8.1 rebounds. He’s shooting 64.9 percent from the floor. The Celtics have outscored opponents by double-digit points during Queta’s floor time in six of their 13 games, and he’s been a positive in nine of the 13 overall.

Yes, he missed a key box-out against Utah that really hurt. Otherwise, he’s been a screen-setting, rim-running machine who has made tremendous progress since his Boston arrival in 2023. 

Why do NBA's Europe plans divide opinion?

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The National Basketball Association (NBA) is making a big push to conquer Europe, both on and off the court.

But not everyone is happy with basketball's premier domestic competition's plans to make waves on the continent.

The 2025-26 NBA season got under way last month and featured a record number of European players - influencing the league's desire to do more in Europe.

A total of 71 European players are in the league, including players from the United Kingdom and France. Five of the NBA's last seven Most Valuable Player award winners have also been from Europe.

Basketball is also the continent's fastest growing and second-most popular sport, with Germany currently Fiba's World Cup champions.

Despite its popularity, though, basketball takes home less than 1% of Europe's $45bn (£33.7bn) sports media and sponsorship markets.

The NBA hopes to cash in on this growth, but the already existing EuroLeague questions the NBA's current proposals for a European league.

What are the NBA's Europe plans?

Victor Wembanyama celebrates
French forward Victor Wembanyama, who currently plays for the San Antonio Spurs, is one of the league's most popular and talented players [Getty Images]

The NBA has proposed the launch of a semi-open European league in the next two years.

Initial plans for 'NBA Europe' are for 10 to 12 set franchises that would stay in the league on an annual basis.

A league of potentially 16 teams is being looked at, combining those set franchises with open spots that teams will be able to qualify for.

The nuances of how teams can qualify is still to be worked out. One option is through performance in the Basketball Champions League, effectively European basketball's second-tier competition at present.

There are other long-term plans from the NBA for the league, including the number of set franchises being doubled and the league being open for Europe-wide qualification.

Why is the NBA confident of success?

Al Ahly Tripoli celebrate winning the 2025 Basketball Africa League
Al Ahly Tripoli won the most recent season of the Basketball Africa League [Getty Images]

The popularity of both basketball and the NBA is on the rise across Europe.

Basketball is the UK's second-biggest participation sport, behind football, according to Sport England.

The NBA has announced plans to hold six games across Europe in four different European cities across the next three seasons, with London, Manchester, Berlin and Paris all to host games between 2026 and 2028.

While basketball is popular across the continent, there is an agreed consensus from both the NBA and EuroLeague, its European counterparts, that there is further room for significant growth in the sport.

Talks for a proposed 'NBA Europe' with potential investors, stakeholders and teams are at a preliminary stage, but further talks are planned for the "near and immediate future".

NBA deputy commissioner Mark Tatum said that the coming months will give the NBA a "good sense of where we are in terms of level of interest".

JP Morgan and The Raine Group have been appointed as advisers for the league's plans, while the NBA is also currently running a similar competition in Africa - the Basketball Africa League.

Why is EuroLeague unhappy?

Real Madrid celebrating winning their latest domestic title earlier this year
Real Madrid have one of basketball's most successful sides in Europe [Getty Images]

Last month, Tatum told BBC Sport that the NBA wanted to collaborate with EuroLeague over plans and that any NBA Europe plans would be to help the sport's overall growth.

However, EuroLeague chief executive Paulius Motiejunas said the NBA's proposals would only "hurt" the sport and that an additional league is "not necessary".

"I'm here to grow basketball in Europe, to make it better," Motiejunas told BBC Sport. "From time to time, you have these new projects or new ideas coming. They can either grow the status quo or make it much better or they can hurt.

"I truly believe that this will only hurt the status quo rather than make it better if it continues to be in a way that it has been presented."

As far as EuroLeague is concerned, the NBA's early plans are similar to its current structure of a semi-open league of core franchises, as well as associated clubs, with the EuroLeague currently having promoted spots available out of the EuroCup.

Part of the NBA's remit is to target major cities without permanently licensed franchises in major cities with permanent top-tier EuroLeague teams in the United Kingdom, Berlin and Rome.

This concept is not new for EuroLeague, which has been attempting to target similar markets for a number of years.

"We've built the business around basketball. We know the markets, [where] the basketball is really mature," Motiejunas explained.

"They are coming and they are creating business and using basketball to do it. It is a completely different approach because if you take the cities that they have announced, we've been looking at these cities for last 10 years.

"It is not easy to unlock them because of football, because of the different mentality and because of different sports that are there. We know how hard it is.

"That's why I say we wish they would tap into our know-how and work together."

EuroLeague remains open to discussions with the NBA over its plans, but it is not hopeful.

What could it mean for basketball in the United Kingdom?

Jaylen Hand of the London Lions
The London Lions have been part of EuroCup since the 2022-23 season [Getty Images]

Both the NBA and EuroLeague agree that the UK is ripe for opportunities.

Speaking on NBA Europe plans, Tatum said: "The UK is going to play a significant role in the proposed European league. For the first time ever, [there will be] permanent franchises in the UK that will play top tier league basketball across Europe.

"I think that will continue to fuel the growth of basketball in the UK."

While the London Lions, who currently play in the EuroCup, are not a top-tier franchise, they remain a part of EuroLeague's long-term plans, with London also planned to be the home of one of two NBA Europe teams in its current plans.

Earlier this week, the first phase of a feasibility study was completed into the construction of a potential 15,000-capacity state-of-the-art arena that would serve as the Lions' home and has been backed by London Mayor Sadiq Khan.

"We still believe in this market," said Motiejunas.

"We still all believe in unlocking the UK market because we know it's quite popular as a sport, maybe not a sport to come and watch, but the sport to come and participate.

"We're happy that they're there, we're still not giving up on this market and we think a lot of potential."

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Columbus Blue Jackets (17 pts) vs. Edmonton Oilers (20 pts) Game Preview

The Columbus Blue Jackets are at home tonight to face the Edmonton Oilers at Nationwide Arena.

The Blue Jackets will have one thing on their mind tonight - Revenge. The good news for Columbus is that they have played Edmonton very tough at home in their history, going 18-13-3-1 inside the friendly confines of Nationwide Arena. The other good news is that Edmonton played last night in Philadelphia and had to go to overtime, so hopefully they're nice and worn out. 

The bad news? The Jackets lost their Captain, Boone Jenner, to an upper-body injury against Seattle on Tuesday night, and his status is uncertain. The fact that the PR team announced that he wouldn't return just a few minutes after he left the game is not a good sign. The Cleveland Monsters also called up forward Chongmin Lee from the ECHL's Bloomington Bison on Wednesday night, which means the CBJ might call up an extra forward before tonight's game. 

The Blue Jackets currently sit 8th in the Metro, 14th in the East, and 26th in the league. 

Blue Jackets Stats

  • Power Play - 15.0% - 29th in NHL
  • Penalty Kill - 72.7% - 27th in NHL
  • Goals For - 48 - 20th in NHL
  • Goals Against - 51 - 21st in NHL

Oilers Stats

  • Power Play - 32.6% - 3rd in NHL
  • Penalty Kill - 82.6% - 9th in NHL
  • Goals For - 54 - 13th in NHL
  • Goals Against - 60 - 26th in NHL

Series History vs. Oilers

  • Columbus is 27-37-3-3 all-time, and 18-13-3-1 at home vs. Edmonton.
  • The Jackets are 5-2-1 in the last 8 games against the Oilers.
  • The CBJ went 1-1 vs. the Oilers last season.

Who To Watch For The Oilers

  • Connor McDavid leads the Oilers with 17 assists and 24 points. He also has 36 points in 19 career games vs. Columbus.
  • Leon Draisaitl leads Edmonton with 10 goals.
  • Calvin Pickard is 5-2-2 with a SV% of .836.

CBJ Player Notes vs. Oilers

  • Zach Werenski has 9 points in 13 games against the Oilers.
  • Sean Monahan has 28 points in 46 games.
  • Adam Fantilli has 5 points in 4 games against Edmonton

Injuries - Gudbranson on IR

  • Erik Gudbranson - Upper Body - Missed 8 games - IR

TOTAL MAN GAMES LOST: 20

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San Diego Padres owners begin process for potential sale of team

San Diego Padres owners begin process for potential sale of team originally appeared on NBC Sports Philadelphia

The San Diego Padres are expected to be up for sale.

The somewhat shocking news was released on Thursday morning, when the Seidler family announced it is starting the process of looking for a potential new ownership group. They’ve even gone so far as to bring on BDT & MSD Partners, a group specializing in these types of transactions, to guide the process. Padres controlling partner John Seidler issued a statement about their decision:

“To our Faithful Fans, I want to share with you that the family has decided to begin a process of evaluating our future with the Padres, including a potential sale of the franchise. We will undertake this process with integrity and professionalism in a way that honors Peter’s legacy and love for the Padres and lays the foundation for the franchise’s long-term success. During the process and as we prepare for the 2026 season, the Padres will continue to focus on putting every resource into winning a World Series championship.

We remain fully committed to you, this team, and the San Diego community.We’re also committed to finding a new steward for the franchise who shares Peter’s vision: continue to field a consistently competitive team and win a World Series championship for San Diego. We have every expectation that the new owner will build on the momentum we have built together and operate the franchise and ballpark in a first-class manner, the way our current leadership team does.

I want to thank you for your faithful support of the Padres. We are fortunate and grateful to have such amazing fans.”

In 2012, Peter Seidler was part of a group that purchased the Padres organization, that was fronted by Ron Fowler. In 2020, Peter rose to managing partner and, until his passing in 2023, turned what was long considered a “small market” team into a club that competes at the highest level. Seidler raised payroll to never-before-seen heights and led the team to its longest sustained run of success.

With that commitment, the Padres fan base responded by packing Petco Park every night, setting multiple attendance records and finishing in the top five in MLB in annual attendance. Before his passing, Peter said he wanted to have the team in the Seidler family’s hands for generations to come.

A Padres spokesperson told NBC San Diego that the club does not want to comment further but says it’s a very safe assumption/assurance that there would be a provision in the sale that prohibits a new owner from relocating the team. The club also has a lease with Petco Park that runs through 2033 that would be prohibitive in any kind of move.

The last Major League Baseball team sale was completed in 2020 when Steve Cohen bought the New York Mets for $2.4 billion, a record for a baseball club. A 2025 CNBC analysis of MLB team values estimated the Padres to be worth $2.1 billion and would certainly not sell for less than that.

The timing of this announcement is a bit curious. MLB free agency started a week ago and, historically, players have had trepidations about teams with ownership instability. Industry experts also expect a lockout to come after the 2026 season as a new collective bargaining agreement is negotiated. That process is expected to have an impact on baseball’s financial landscape and could prompt any potential buyers to wait until they know exactly what kind of situation they’re buying into.

The Premier League XI that deserves more credit, from Pickford to Trossard

England’s keeper and a 19-year-old French forward are part of our selection of players who are essential to their clubs

Unless his arms suddenly enjoy a miraculous growth spurt the T rex jibes will never fully be banished, but Jordan Pickford has been one of the Premier League’s most reliable goalkeepers for some time. His long passing and shot-stopping have always been of decent standard, but, over time, he’s developed his short game, able to keep the ball moving and begin attacks by picking out teammates at closer range. His handling is tidier, meaning mistakes are fewer, and he is no longer as affected by his emotions as he was in his youth.

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Canadiens: Dobes Speaks To The Media

Nearly a week after breaking down in front of the media following a 4-3 overtime loss to the New Jersey Devils, Montreal Canadiens’ netminder Jakub Dobes spoke to the media after practice on Wednesday.

The 24-year-old netminder was all smiles as he explained his reaction to the loss. Turns out that the youngster had lost to them last season and had promised himself that it wouldn’t happen again. The fact that it did, but that it also was in the same fashion in overtime, was the final drop in the bucket, and it pushed him over the edge.

For those who thought there might have been some lasting damage to the goaltender’s mood or confidence, rest assured that it’s already in the past. In fact, he said he was just fine when the team got on the plane back from New Jersey that night and confessed that his teammates had some fun with it at his expense. While he says he has no intention of changing his personality, he does concede that he may get better at handling results as he matures.

After watching Samuel Montembeault play the last two games, Dobes will be back in action on Thursday as the Canadiens will host the Dallas Stars. He took them on once last season and was named the second star of the game in a 3-1 win, posting a .970 save percentage.

The rookie netminder still hasn’t lost in regulation this season and has a 6-0-1 record with a 2.25 goals-against average (second in the league amongst goaltenders who have played at least seven games) and a .920 SV (fourth in the league amongst players who have played in at least seven games). His stats also make him the best rookie goaltender this season, edging Arturs Silovs from the Pittsburgh Penguins, who has a 2.45 GAA and a .916 SV with a 4-2-3 record.


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Panthers kick off extended home stretch with battle against Alex Ovechkin, Capitals

The Florida Panthers are ready to kick off an extended stretch of home games after a very road-heavy opening schedule.

Only seven of Florida’s first 16 games have come at Amerant Bank Arena, but those numbers are going to be skewed in the opposite direction in the not-too-distant future.

That’s because in the coming weeks, the Panthers will play 11 of their next 12 games on home ice.

The fun will start on Thursday night when they welcome the Washington Capitals to Sunrise for the first of their two visits to South Florida.

So far this season, the Capitals, much like the Panthers, are making their way through a so-so start to their campaign.

Both teams hold identical 8-7-1 records through 16 games.

Florida has been great at home but didn’t start playing consistency well on the road until the past week.

After starting the season with three straight home wins, the Cats have meandered around the .500 mark since.

Similarly, the Capitals got off to a great start as well, winning four of their first five and six of eight to jump out to a 6-2-0 mark.

Since then, however, Washington has struggled.

They went through a stretch where they lost six of seven before picking up a big road win on Tuesday in Carolina.

One constant bright spot for the Caps throughout the young season has been the play of goaltender Logan Thompson.

He holds a respectable 7-4-0 record, but his statistics – a 1.56 goals against average and .935 save percentage – are Vezina-worthy.

It wasn’t until his tenth start of the season, last Saturday in Tampa, that Thompson allowed more than two goals in a game.

He’s expected to patrol the crease for the Caps on Thursday, and his likely opponent will be Sergei Bobrovsky.

Here are the Panthers projected lines and pairings for Thursday’s matchup with Washington:

Carter Verhaeghe – Evan Rodrigues – Sam Reinhart

Eetu Luostarinen – Anton Lundell – Brad Marchand

Jesper Boqvist – Sam Bennett – Mackie Samoskevich

A.J. Greer – Cole Schwindt – Luke Kunin

Gus Forsling – Aaron Ekblad

Niko Mikkola – Seth Jones

Dominic Sebrango – Jeff Petry

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Photo caption: May 5, 2022; Sunrise, Florida, USA; Washington Capitals left wing Alex Ovechkin (8) covers Florida Panthers defenseman Aaron Ekblad (5) during the third period in game two of the first round of the 2022 Stanley Cup Playoffs at FLA Live Arena. (Sam Navarro-Imagn Images)

Flyers Player Development Taking Sour Turn, Sluggish Performances Piling Up

Almost a quarter of the way through the 2025-26 season, it's becoming clearer that the Philadelphia Flyers are still a far cry from the Stanley Cup-contending team they aspire to be.

Yes, the Flyers are in a playoff spot at the time of this writing, but they're also two points away from being the second-worst team in the Eastern Conference.

Teams like the Toronto Maple Leafs, Columbus Blue Jackets, Tampa Bay Lightning, and Florida Panthers have too much talent to lay dormant forever, though injuries are certainly taking their tolls on those teams.

And, when it comes to tiebreakers, the Flyers are tied with Buffalo for the fewest regulation wins (4) and have the second-fewest regulation and overtime wins (5).

If the team isn't currently thinking about the postseason, they'd be in the right frame of mind.

The Flyers aren't a bad team, necessarily, but they are painstakingly boring and still haven't found a way to consistently generate offense.

In the Rick Tocchet era thus far, the Flyers are dead last in the NHL in shots per game (24.6), tied for the third-fewest goals per game (2.56), and more generally have seen very little improvement from many of their core players.

Franchise player Matvei Michkov is at the heart of those issues, and it's not all his fault.

Porter Martone Doing Everything Flyers Needed to See in NCAAPorter Martone Doing Everything Flyers Needed to See in NCAAThe Philadelphia Flyers have to be thrilled with how Porter Martone has been developing on the ice and in the gym.

At 5-on-5, Michkov, 20, leads the Flyers in on-ice goals for per 60 minutes (3.15) and on-ice shooting percentage (12.05%) and ranks second in on-ice goals percentage (58.82%) and expected on-ice goals for per 60 (2.63), according to Natural Stat Trick.

The problem, however, is that Michkov is averaging just 11:55 a night at 5-on-5, which ranks ninth on the Flyers behind Travis Konecny, Sean Couturier, Owen Tippett, Noah Cates, Tyson Foerster, Christian Dvorak, Trevor Zegras, and Bobby Brink.

To put all of that information into layman's terms, the Flyers are generating and scoring the most with their Russian talisman on the ice, but he's barely playing third-line minutes.

And to wrap it up, Michkov is sixth in scoring amongst his 2023 draft classmates, while players like Leo Carlsson, Connor Bedard, and Will Smith have all taken off this season with 17 or more points. Michkov, on the other hand, is stuck at nine points and pacing for 47 on the year.

After hot starts, Foerster and Tippett have all but faded into obscurity, too.

The former, returning from an 11-day layoff due to injury, has managed just one goal and one point in his last five contests.

Foerster is on pace for 46 points, narrowly besting his career-high of 43 from last year, despite playing nearly two minutes more on average going from 16:52 a night to 18:24.

If the 23-year-old continues to feature exclusively as a checking-line forward, then he'll only ever be a checking-line forward who doesn't reach his full potential offensively. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

As for Tippett, his game has completely stalled out after scoring five times in the first six games of the season. Since then, he has one assist in his last 10 games.

Tocchet admitted recently that Tippett needs to "stay a little bit more focused in the game," but Tippett immediately went offside on what would've been a game-winning Konecny goal with 26 seconds left in a 1-1 game against the Edmonton Oilers on Wednesday night.

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That goal, of course, didn't stand, and the Flyers lost 2-1 in overtime on an unfortunate and uncharacteristic error from Cam York.

Zegras's point-per-game pace and Konecny's resurgence are things to be happy with, as is Dan Vladar's .919 save percentage.

As for the young players, and the ones who didn't just arrive in Philadelphia this summer? It hasn't been perfect.

York and Jamie Drysdale look improved, but, as mentioned above, York did just lose them a game with a turnover, and Drysdale's game still lacks end product with seven points in 16 games.

Rookie forward Nikita Grebenkin, who has flashed promise and his playmaking chops at various times throughout the nascent season, didn't even play against the Oilers on Wednesday night.

That came at the cost of 6:59 of ice time for Nick Deslauriers, 7:50 of ice time for Garnet Hathaway, and 6:21 of ice time for Rodrigo Abols, who also went 0-for-5 on faceoffs.

Overall, the way the Flyers are developing their current players and the direction of the rebuild overall has clearly taken a downward turn.

Whether that is temporary or not remains to be seen, and the sky isn't falling.

As far as reinvigorating interest and excitement in the Flyers? The progress amongst the fans, at least those with voices on social media, has been inscrutable.