Milwaukee Bucks guard Tyler Herro says he wants to "move on" from his altercation with former Miami Heat teammate Bam Adebayo after it was reported that Adebayo hit him in the face.
According to multiple media reports, Herro was approached by Adebayo at the Resorts World Hotel in Las Vegas on July 10.
Herro was at the hotel watching his AAU team practice when Adebayo confronted him about comments made on social media.
"Honestly, I'm just trying to move past all of it," Herro said to ESPN. "I'm focused on Milwaukee and building something special. They obviously just traded the greatest player in their history, so we want to come in and help continue what they've been doing."
"I'm ready to come home and not prove everyone wrong," he said, "but just be able to represent the city and the state because I wanted to do that coming out of school as well."
Adebayo and Herro spent seven seasons as teammates before Herro was traded to Milwaukee in a deal that sent two-time MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo to Miami.
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As the LeBron James saga plows forward like it’s an early 2010’s summer, the conclusion appears to be drawing near. And, like the early 2010’s, it’s ESPN’s Brian Windhorst leading the reporting.
On the Hoop Collective podcast, Windhorst said that James is contacting players on some of the interested teams. This, of course, then gets sent back to the respective team’s head coach and/or general manager.
“LeBron is reaching out and talking to players on some of these teams and they report back to their GM or coach.”
“LeBron is reaching out and talking to players on some of these teams and they report back to their GM or coach,” – @WindhorstESPN on the latest details around LeBron and what teams are hearing. pic.twitter.com/PTRl2hsZeP
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Windhorst did not indicate who these players were or even the exact teams that have been contacted, adding to the veiled maneuvering happening in the background.
The Cavs can also, in a way, corroborate this reporting from ESPN. Cavs head coach Kenny Atkinson, while being interviewed at the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas, appeared to allude to Cleveland’s pursuit of James.
“You guys know there’s a little free agency thing on right now so…that could be our real jump and you know what I’m talking about,” Atkinson said during the Cavs’ Summer League matchup against the Detroit Pistons. “That’s exciting too.”
Then there is the Donovan Mitchell extension, which came a year sooner than many expected. Mitchell left a sizable amount of money on the table by signing this year as opposed to next summer, an act of good faith that may have been signed with the knowledge that something was coming to boost the Cavs’ championship outlook. Signing James would certainly be one of those achievable roster improvements.
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It is no secret to the league that a reunion of LeBron James and the team that drafted all the way back in 2003 would be hard to pass on. The Cleveland Cavaliers, as reported by Marc Stein, are regarded by teams pursuing James as “the scenario to beat”.
Stein includes teams who view this as the case to be the teams most in pursuit of the King. This includes the likes of the Golden State Warriors, Miami Heat, Philadelphia 76ers, Minnesota Timberwolves, and Denver Nuggets. According to Stein, the situation is viewed as Cleveland being the scenario to beat; however, not necessarily unbeatable.
Golden State reportedly, while having “tangible concern that Cleveland is the closest thing to a frontrunner,” has not given up on their pursuit of the King. Stein goes on to say that this sentiment is shared by all suitors above. With Timberwolves coach Chris Finch saying as much on Stein and Jake Fisher’s Bleacher Report livestream: “I think they’ve made everybody feel like they genuinely have an opportunity.”
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In the same excerpt from Stein, he floats questions around LeBron’s upcoming appearances this week. James is scheduled to have live podcast appearances this Thursday and Friday in New York City at the Fanatics Fest event.
It has been rumored that LeBron’s decision should be coming sooner rather than later. So the LeBron sweepstakes being announced before or even during LeBron’s media appearances later this week would not surprise many in the least.
If the Cavaliers are truly viewed as the “scenario to beat,” then Cleveland will need to remain aggressive in whatever approach they are currently utilizing to entice James to this potential third reunion. A return of LeBron brings more with it than a simple storybook ending to an all-time career. They would have a chance to compete for a title, and would presumably pull out all of the stops to put themselves in the best position to do so if they can secure a commitment from James.
With a half dozen NBA Summer League games tonight in Las Vegas, several NBA lottery picks are set to take the court, including Washington Wizards No. 1 pick AJ Dybantsa, via Kalshi.
Dybantsa's matchup against Caleb Wilson and the Chicago Bulls headlines our NBA Summer League picks for Tuesday, July 14.
NBA Summer League predictions for July 14
Pick
Kings moneyline
-117
Wizards moneyline
-194
Lakers moneyline
+138
💰 All three parlayed
+569
Today's Summer League picks
Kings moneyline (-117 at Kalshi)
One thing has been clear for the Sacramento Kings during NBA Summer League play: No. 7 pick Darius Acuff Jr. has the green light.
With the Arkansas product leading the offense, the Kings went 3-0 in Salt Lake City Summer League play, including a win over the Brooklyn Nets, where he dropped 25 points.
The rookie guard combo of Acuff (78 points in 108 minutes) and Emanuel Sharp (59 points in 109 minutes), plus the interior presence of Maxime Raynaud (20 points in his first NBA Summer League game of the year on Saturday), will be difficult for the Nets' defense to slow.
Sacramento is 4-1 overall in the Summer League with a roster that's a good mix of young players and older rookies.
Wizards moneyline (-194 at Kalshi)
The Kings' one loss in NBA Summer League came at the hands of a Washington Wizards team led by No. 1 pick AJ Dybantsa.
Dybantsa has looked like the real deal thus far, taking down both Acuff's Kings and No. 2 pick Darryn Peterson's Utah Jazz. In those matchups, Dybantsa has combined for 50 points in 50 minutes.
It's not just him, though; second-year players Will Riley (50 points in 58 minutes) and Tre Johnson (26 points in 28 minutes) have created problems for defenses.
Meanwhile, the Chicago Bulls have looked like a mess, despite No. 4 pick Caleb Wilson showing superstar ability. Even with Wilson putting up 54 points in 62 minutes, Chicago is 0-2, which includes a 17-point loss to Utah last night.
Lakers moneyline (+138 at Kalshi)
After dropping their opening game of NBA Summer League in the California Classic, the Los Angeles Lakers have won four straight. That includes being 2-0 in Las Vegas.
The stars of the "Lake Show" have been rookie first-round pick Cameron Carr (68 points in 97 minutes) and little-known second-year player Arthur Kaluma (80 points in 92 minutes). Carr's shooting on the perimeter, paired with Kaluma's ability to bully inside, has given Los Angeles a scary offense.
The Los Angeles Clippers haven't been quite as consistent. They shot just 33% from the floor in their first NBA Summer League game, with top pick Keaton Wagler scoring just seven in 27 minutes.
While they did beat the Jazz in their second game, they allowed Utah to shoot 47% from 3-point range. Against Carr & Co., the Clippers' defense could be exposed.
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CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA - APRIL 14: Jaime Jaquez Jr. #11 of the Miami Heat plays against the Charlotte Hornets during their game at Spectrum Center on April 14, 2026 in Charlotte, North Carolina. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Jacob Kupferman/Getty Images) | Getty Images
Jaime Jaquez Jr. isn’t your typical NBA player. Not in today’s league. He’s not a volume three-point shooter. He’s not a highlight-reel athlete. He’s not a lockdown defender. He’s not even a starter—at least, not yet. But he is a baller, in the purest sense of the word. And for that, the Bucks should count their lucky stars.
The path to now
Drafted 18th overall in the 2023 NBA Draft, Jaquez had a strong rookie campaign, playing 75 games (20 starts) for the 46-36 Miami Heat, averaging 11.9 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.6 APG, and 1.0 SPG in 28.2 MPG. He finished fourth in Rookie of the Year voting behind Victor Wembanyama, Chet Holmgren, and Brandon Miller, and even garnered some consideration for Sixth Man of the Year (6MOY), finishing ninth. He carried that play over to the playoffs too, putting up 12.8 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 3.0 APG in 30.8 MPG, but did so as a starter before going down with a hip flexor injury in Game 4.
Following his outstanding rookie year, Jaquez suffered an apparent sophomore slump, largely due to a reduction in minutes. Though he averaged 22.2 MPG through February, that number dropped to just 16.5 MPG across March and April as the Heat turned to mid-season acquisition Andrew Wiggins in the frontcourt. And in the playoffs, he became ghost—just 19 minutes total across three games.
Yet, per 36 minutes, Jaquez’s sophomore campaign essentially mirrored his rookie one, and many of his advanced stats—free throw rate, offensive and defensive rebounding percentage, assist percentage, steal percentage, block percentage—actually increased (per Basketball-Reference). His net plus/minus, however, nosedived, going from +3.0 as a rookie to -9.0 as a sophomore and suddenly his game posed more questions than it did answers. Namely, is this guy for real?
Last season, Jaquez answered that with a resounding “Yes!”, finishing second in 6MOY voting behind San Antonio’s Keldon Johnson—first in this writer’s opinion—on the back of 15.4 PPG, 5.0 RPG, and 4.7 APG on 51% shooting. No longer a bit starter, Jaquez embraced his role as leader of the bench brigade, increasing his usage to a career-high 22.3% and returning his net plus/minus to the positives (+1.6). But it wasn’t just role stability that enabled Jaquez to thrive.
Across his first two seasons, Jaquez played the majority of his game time at small forward (an estimated 51% and 56% of his minutes, respectively, per Basketball-Reference), while also spending considerable time at shooting guard (37% and 32%). For a player with limited long range prowess—he’s a career 32% three-point shooter on just 2.3 attempts per game—this was always going to be problematic. Last year, then, Heat coach Erick Spoelstra made the wise move to play him primarily at power forward, with 50% of his minutes coming at the four, 38% at the three, and just 12% at the two.
And this, Bucks fans, is who we’re getting—a ball-handling four.
Now what?
For a team that is overloaded at guard—even more so now with Gary Trent Jr.’s new deal—stocked on the wing, and set a centre, Jaquez is exactly what the doctor ordered, especially without Giannis. Despite playing just 36 games last season, Giannis (once again) led the Bucks with 176 shooting fouls drawn, 77 more than second-place Kyle Kuzma (per Basketball-Reference). For further reference, Myles Turner drew 83, Kevin Porter Jr. drew 74, and Ryan Rollins drew 61. No other player registered 40. Jaquez, meanwhile, drew 107—and he converted the resulting free throws at a 77% success rate, right on his career mark.
Outside of his penchant for drawing fouls, Jaquez’s offensive value lies in his midrange-and-below marksmanship and ability to create for others. Regarding the former, Jaquez lives in the paint, with 79% of his shots coming below the free throw line: 37% at the rim and 42% in the short mid, per Cleaning the Glass (CTG). He hits them too, converting 68% of his rim attempts (63rd percentile for forwards) and 46% of his short middies (79th percentile). But it’s more than just the numbers. Jaquez’s paintwork is the stuff of artists—and he will give it to you however you want it: reverse pivots, jump hooks, spins, pump fakes into up-and-unders, jump stops into floaters. Angles and craft and off-beat movement. Old-school basketball. And while you’d love to see him take and make more three-pointers, it’s not all doom and gloom there either—as long as you get him in the corners, where he’s a 45% marksman (82nd percentile).
As a playmaker, Jaquez leverages his downhill attacking to create open looks for shooters. But he also uses his off-beat savvy to free players flashing in the paint, and he’s more than adept at hitting cutters too. In all, Jaquez recorded a 24% assist percentage last season and a 1.02 assist to usage ratio, placing him on the 88th and 92nd percentiles, respectively (per CTG). For a Bucks team that struggled with shot creation last season, this is a blessing. Gone are the days of one-dimensional shooters, Milwaukee now has a legitimate group of at least six playmakers: Rollins, Porter, Jaquez, Tyler Herro, Kasparas Jakučionis, and Brayden Burries. At a stretch, you could even throw in Ousmane Dieng, who was forced into a primary initiator role late last season. So, while the Bucks may lack a star player, they can offset that at least somewhat by keeping the defence guessing—it ain’t so easy to load up defensively when you don’t know where the action is coming from.
Defensively, Jaquez isn’t going to stand out. He’s not long or explosively athletic, so he’s not going to rack up a heap of steals or blocks, and at 6’6” he’s at a height disadvantage when playing at the four, so he’s not going to haul in rebounds either. But he is a stout 225 lbs, making him effective in the post, and his positional knowhow and spatial awareness enable him to guard multiple positions at least satisfactorily—so that “not standing out” descriptor is true in this way too; he’s certainly not someone opposing defences will hunt.
Looking ahead, Jaquez could fill a range of roles for Milwaukee. Should head coach Taylor Jenkins want size up front, Jaquez could easily slot into his customary sixth man role and continue to punish second units. On the other hand, should Jenkins want to lean into his historical tendencies and play with pace, Jaquez could step into an expanded role as the team’s starting power forward, go full “Juan Wick”, and explode for a career-year. Of course, with the Bucks roster currently sitting at 17 and trimming needed prior to opening night, there are any number of trade potentialities that could reshape the equation. Fortunately for the Bucks, Jaquez’s versatility and old-school game should translate regardless.
Starter or sixth man, how do you see Jaquez fitting in Milwaukee? Chop it up in the comments.
LAS VEGAS, NV - JULY 10: Chris Cenac Jr. #12 of the Boston Celtics celebrates scoring the game tying shoots a three point basket during the game against the Toronto Raptors on July 10, 2026 at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2026 NBAE (Photo by Stephen Greathouse/NBAE via Getty Images) | NBAE via Getty Images
#1 Tucker DeThrees
With Amari Williams and Hugo Gonzalez both out, Tucker DeVries and Chris Cenac Jr. got their first starts at Summer League. DeVries, who missed the opening games against the Toronto Raptors, looked every bit the sharpshooter he’s been made out to be, knocking down three of his eight attempts.
Unfortunately for Boston, two of those triples came in the opening minutes, at which point DeVries’ scoring impact vanished until he scored a putback with 23 seconds remaining in the second quarter. His final triple came midway through the third, after which his impact was no longer felt in terms of scoring.
When he wasn’t scoring the rock, DeVries’ impact was limited; he only recorded one board and one dime in his nearly 21 minutes of playing time. Furthermore, his defensive impact was often negligible. He’ll need to round out some other areas of his game if he wants to make an NBA roster as more than just a single-skill sniper.
#2 Struggles at the point
What do John Tonje, Milos Uzan and Curtis Jones have in common?
They all struggled when playing one-on-one against the Atlanta Hawks. That quarter went 5-of-23 from the field, with a combined six assists, four of which came from Uzan (who now has 16 dimes in three games).
In a game where Boston’s two best players were out for the night, there were plenty of touches and shots to go around. Given the impact Tonje and Uzan had made over the previous two games, it was fair to assume one of those two would consume some of those additional reps. Yet, whether it was Atlanta’s defense or simply just a tough shooting night from the guard contingent, no one stepped up.
Unfortunately, that also means Jones, who had seen limited floor time before Monday, didn’t rise to the occasion. Instead, Jones struggled from start to finish, often running himself into traffic or holding onto the ball too long. His shot selection came against the flow of the game at times, too.
Milos Uzan has dished out 16 assists in three games for the Summer League Celtics, all coming from the bench.
He's put himself in a great spot to contend for a two-way contract. Will still need to prove himself at training camp.
Rough nights happen. Perhaps Isaiah Wong, Isaac McKneely and Zeke Mayo were bad matchups for them. Perhaps Tonje and Uzan were struggling on the second night of a back-to-back, and perhaps Jones struggled with a sudden boost in court time.
Whatever the reason, the Celtics guard rotation had a night it will soon want to forget, and so will we.
#3 Welcome to the NBA, well, kinda
Speaking of playing in a back-to-back, for most of the players on the Celtics roster, this was their first taste of two games in a 24-hour(ish) period. I would assume that for those who played heavy minutes on Sunday, the Hawks game was somewhat of a ‘welcome to the NBA’ moment.
Tired legs, sore bodies, and a fair sprinkling of fatigue are all to be expected. Sure, we’re talking about pro athletes, but when your body isn’t used to something, you feel it the next day, professional or not. I would hazard a guess that fatigue played some sort of role in the performance we saw yesterday, specifically in the second quarter.
I would assume the first 10 minutes were fine. Then, tiredness set in and everything felt more difficult than it should. From there, adrenaline and the halftime rest likely carried the squad through the final half of the game. Still, back-to-backs are part of the NBA game, so giving everyone a taste of what that’s like, both in terms of preparation and performance, is a good primer for if/when they take the next step.
Of course, they didn’t need to adjust to travel, but that can be a curveball in their rookie seasons.
#4 A future connection?
After Boston’s opening win against Toronto, I noted the two-man game on display from Amari Williams and Hugo Gonzalez. Yesterday, we saw signs of another potential two-man game with Chris Cenac Jr. and Dillon Mitchell.
Rookie to Rookie connection for the Celtics here.
I'm dreaming a little here, but how many times will we see a sequence like this from Cenac and Mitchell over the next few years? pic.twitter.com/1y35E5ryMo
Both rookies are what I would classify as defensive event makers. They make stuff happen, either with their athleticism, size or energy when rotating over. Mitchell seems to love getting out on the break, making him the ideal outlet pass receiver whenever a shot gets swatted or a big board is pulled down.
As you can see from the above clip, there was a play late in the third quarter where Cenac had blocked the shot, recovered his block and found Mitchell sprinting up the floor. When it comes to a foot face, at least at Summer League level, I’d be happy to bet on Mitchell winning those most of the time. So, no surprise that he outruns Atlanta’s defense to get the finish.
If you’re going to be watching the Maine Celtics a lot next season, I would assume the connection between these two will be something you come to look forward to. After all, Cenac might be signed to the primary roster, but he projects to spend a decent chunk of his time in the G League, while Mitchell will most likely land a two-way deal following his play over the last three games.
The hope, of course, is that both Cenac and Mitchell eventually crack Joe Mazzulla’s rotation, at which point this type of defense-to-offense connection becomes commonplace for Celtics fans. It might be wishful thinking, and perhaps a touch of dreaming, but honestly, I would love to see these two build on that singular play from last night.
#5 Next up, the Sacramento Kings
Right now, the Celtics hold a 2-1 record in Summer League. If they want to end the tournament with a winning record, they’ll need to handle their business against the Sacramento Kings on Wednesday, July 15. However, the Kings’ roster will arguably be the strongest Amile Jefferson’s team has faced.
Sacramento has Alex Karaban, Maxime Raynaud, Nique Clifford and Darius Acuff Jr on its roster, among others. There’s a whole lot of young potential sprinkled with some NBA experience to round things out. Getting Gonzalez and Williams back will be key to the Celtics having a legitimate shot of ending the night with a 3-1 record to their name.
Furthermore, seeing Williams go against Raynaud will be a good litmus test for where Boston’s sophomore big man needs to improve, while Gonzalez will have another chance to continue working on his pick-and-roll game. Hopefully, both can have better shooting nights.
I’m looking forward to seeing how the Celtics and Kings match up, and will also be interested to see whether Uzan can get some minutes going against Acuff Jr, and who winds up coming out on top.
LAS VEGAS, NV - JULY 13: Cameron Boozer #27 of the Memphis Grizzlies looks to pass the ball during the game against the Dallas Mavericks during the 2026 NBA Las Vegas Summer League on July 13, 2026 at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2026 NBAE (Photo by David Becker/NBAE via Getty Images) | NBAE via Getty Images
In Monday’s NBA Summer League play, Cam Boozer continued to impress. He racked up 21 points in 29 minutes, and also had 8 rebounds, 3 steals, and 3 assists. Passing is a part of his game that people will eventually just see as part of what he does, but he’s really, really good at it.
Look at the following video. On the second play, he falls with the ball and makes the perfect pass, then removes to make the folllow-up. On the third clip, he makes a brilliant outlet. And as Cedric Coward said, it’s hard to believe he’s just 18. There’s more, too. In particular, watch his footwork. The guy is years ahead of schedule.
Khaman Malauch continues to show sharp improvement for Phoenix: instead of making a macho play and blocking the shot out of bounds, thus giving it back to Dallas, he tips it to himself, essentially stealing the ball. This is how you block shots.
This is what you love to see from Khaman Maluach. Alert as the low man, makes the rotation, and stays vertical on the shot contest. Lastly, secures the board. pic.twitter.com/eqK013kaRY
Utah Jazz guard Trey Alexander was taken off the court on a stretcher after collapsing on the floor during an NBA Summer League game on Monday, July 13, against the Chicago Bulls.
Alexander collided with the Bulls' Caleb Wilson, drawing a foul on his drive to the basket. After the play ended, Alexander dropped to the ground clutching his side and appeared to be in substantial pain.
The G-league rookie of the year in 2024-25, Alexander just signed a two-way deal with Utah last week. The team did not provide any update on his condition, according to the Associated Press.
Alexander, 23, skipped his final season at Creighton to turn pro. He has played a total of 33 games in the NBA over the past two seasons with the Denver Nuggets and New Orleans Pelicans.
It should be noted that players are listed with the Teams they were with on June 16, so techincally Tobias Harris is listed with the Pistons, but his addition to the Spurs in the upcoming season gives the Silver& Black eight players, the most for any team.
Victor Wembanyama is #2 on the list, just behind Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. SGA was the league MVP and Cluth POTY lewading his team to 64 wins. Wemby was runner-up for MVP and the DPOY and bested OKC in the Western Conference Finals on his way to the NBA Finals. Something tells me these could be reversed next season.
Stephon Castle at #26 is described as wrecking ball defender. His placement feels right given the surrounding players.
Dylan Harper and De’Aaron Fox are #45 and #46 respectively. Looks like the authors — Bill Simmons, Zach Lowe, Danny Chau, Kirk Goldsberry, Rob Mahoney, Michael Pina, and Justin Verrier — didn’t want to pick a favorite given the “who should come start and who should come off the bench” discussions swirling after the the Finals. Alas, they couldn’t tie, so they gave Harper a small edge.
Vassell is such an overlooked player at times. Given the manpower in that starting line-up, it’s easy to focus on their last three years of draft picks and shuffle Vassell back. Good to see the writers acknowledge his greatness.
Having Julian Champagnie and Keldon Joshnon at #98 and #99 feels like a 1-2 punch to close out the Spurs on the list. All seven of the Spurs double-figure scorers made the list. All five starters (at the end of the season) were on the list. And Harris’ inclusion makes the Spurs the team with the most going inot next season.
Noteable non-Spurs.
At age 38, Stephen Curry is still in the Top 10.
Call it sour grapes (and the fact that I mainly only watch Spurs games) buy Karl-Anthony Towns at #12 felt too high. I’ll have to revisot his regular season stats, but the Knicks biog man was non-factor in their close out Championship Game 5 and scored only 5 measly points in all five 4th quarters during the Finals. Is he really the fourth best big in the game?
Ex-Spurs guard Dejounte Murray came in ay #89. I didn’t even know he was still playing. Thought injuries had sidelined him.
Memphis and Sacramento had no players on the list while Chicago, Dallas, and Brooklyn had one apiece.
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LAS VEGAS, NV - JULY 13: Koby Brea #14 of the Phoenix Suns dribbles the ball during the game against the Milwaukee Bucks on July 13, 2026 at the Cox Pavilion in Las Vegas, Nevada. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2026 NBAE (Photo by Stephen Greathouse/NBAE via Getty Images) | NBAE via Getty Images
As the Phoenix Suns tipped off their third Summer League game against the Milwaukee Bucks, a rolling monsoon made its way into the Valley of the Sun. Dust, wind, rain, lightning, thunder. ’Twas the first big storm of the summer, and it coincided with the storm brewing on the court in Las Vegas.
For the first time this summer, the Suns looked cohesive and connected in the opening quarter, scoring 19 points after totaling only 22 first-quarter points in their first two games combined. From there, the aggression and pressure continued. And as I watched, I could feel the overreactions boiling inside of me.
Because how can you not be excited about how comfortable and mature Khaman Maluach looks? How can you not be impressed with the way rookie Koa Peat demands the ball and makes a beeline toward the cylinder? How can you not be thankful that Koby Brea was knocking down three pointers? How can you not be pleased with how Rasheer Fleming’s defensive acumen appears to have progressed?
When the regular season arrives, the minutes for these players will most likely dwindle. Players ahead of them on the depth chart will receive more opportunities, and that’s fine. That’s what makes what the Suns are doing right now so impressive. They have a deep roster with a talented starting five and legitimate position battles behind it.
The youth movement on display in Vegas felt as impressive and mighty as the storm rolling across the desert Monday night. And like the rain, sometimes you have to wait for it. This was the first measurable rain in 100 days. It might be a couple of years before these young players truly make their impact in Phoenix. But if they continue to progress, they’re going to force the organization’s hand. They’re going to force some decisions.
And that’s where the excitement lives. Not in Summer League wins or stat lines, but in the pressure these players can create within the organization. Development changes timelines. Competition changes rotations. Young players who demand opportunities eventually receive them. The Suns don’t need Maluach, Peat, Fleming, or Brea to arrive tomorrow. They need them to keep pushing. Keep progressing. Keep making the decisions ahead more difficult. Because when that happens, the forecast in Phoenix begins to change.
Summer Bright Side Baller Standings
Two games. Two Bright Side Baller awards for Khaman Maluach. And you know what? I wouldn’t want it any other way…
LAS VEGAS, NV - JULY 10: Khaman Maluach #10 of the Phoenix Suns looks to pass the ball during the game against the Portland Trail Blazers on July 10, 2026 at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2026 NBAE (Photo by Stephen Greathouse/NBAE via Getty Images) | NBAE via Getty Images
There’s one hard and fast rule when it comes to evaluating player performance at NBA Summer League: it’s only okay to overreact if it strengthens your pre-existing beliefs and narratives. There are worse ways to spend one’s time in Las Vegas than searching for confirmation bias on the frantic courts of summer league.
In reality, the only universally agreed upon summer league truth is that it’s a very bad sign if second and third-year players are struggling as former first-round picks. For everyone else, what happens in Vegas should be taken with a grain of salt yet enjoyed to its fullest because it’s awesome to have NBA basketball back in July even if it’s only JV teams duking it out for a couple weeks.
Summer league is mostly about watching the NBA’s recent draft picks, but it’s always nice when young veterans show they might be taking a leap for the upcoming season. A year ago, Ajay Mitchell was on my too good for summer league list and then proceeded to have a breakout year for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Here are the players who look too good to be in Las Vegas this summer.
Will Riley, G, Washington Wizards
Riley measured above 6’8 barefoot at the combine ahead of the 2025 draft, and he’s reportedly gotten even taller since then. Now standing around 6’10, the 20-year-old wing showed off his deep bag of scoring moves with fearless takes to the rim, spot-up threes, and solid rebounding for his position in Las Vegas. Riley is really slippery off the bounce to beat the first line of the defense, and his long strides and extension finishes help him finish at the basket even with his thin frame. His shooting tends to run hot-and-cold, but he has real utility in his three-point shot both off the dribble and on spot-ups, and there’s no doubt he has NBA range on his jumper. Riley is just a really fluid athlete for his size with real shooting upside, and he has the awareness to relocate off the ball to put himself in a better position to score. There are suddenly a lot of mouths to feed in Washington, but Riley seems like a walking bucket who is just starting to scratch his long-term upside.
Slawson was a 2023 NCAA tournament hero for helping lead Furman to a first-round upset over Virginia, which helped him get selected No. 54 overall by the Kings. He’s bounced around the G League in his first few years as a pro with only 13 NBA games under his belt, but he’s coming off an excellent season for Pacers’ G League affiliate. Slawson is proving he deserves a real shot at an NBA roster spot with a fantastic showing in summer league that has displayed his downhill athleticism and defensive playmaking as a 6’8 forward. He had five blocks in the SummerPacers’ Vegas opener in a win over the Cavs, then turned up the heat on offense by scoring 26 points on 8-of-16 shooting in Indiana’s next game against the 76ers. Slawson’s defense will have to be his calling card to earn a roster spot, and he has all the tools you need at that end with a strong frame, a near 7-foot wingspan, and good instincts to both play the passing lanes and rotate for supplemental rim protection. Offensively, he’s best when he has a clear lane to the basket as a cutter or in transition. The three-point shot remains his swing skill, but after making 34.5 percent from deep in the G League last year, it’s clear he’s making progress. This summer league run has been another step forward.
Egor Demin, G, Brooklyn Nets
It’s time I fill out an apology form on Egor Demin. Ahead of the 2025 NBA Draft, I named Demin one of the most overrated prospects in the class, and gave the Nets a D for his selection at No. 8 overall in my instant grades. My main arguments against Demin were that I didn’t think he could score efficiently inside or outside the arc, and I didn’t think he had the frame to play through contact on either end. Well! Demin massively improved as a shooter as a rookie, going from 27 percent from three and 69 percent from the foul line in college to 38.5 percent from three and 83.1 percent on free throws as a rookie. A year in an NBA strength and conditioning program helped his body quite a bit too, and he continues to show the gains he’s made during summer league. Demin scored 20 or more points in all three of his summer league games this year on 61 percent true shooting. He looks improved attacking the basket off the bounce, and he’s showing he can hit the defensive glass, too. The Nets have done a really good job developing Demin’s frame, and it’s paying off on both ends. Demin deserves a lot of credit himself for putting in the work to improve his jumper. I’m happy to be wrong about this one because Demin is a cool player with a fun skill set who should be a nice piece in Brooklyn’s rebuild for a long time.
Beringer didn’t play much as a rookie after being the No. 17 overall pick in the 2025 draft, but he’s in line for a bigger role this season after the Timberwolves traded away Julius Randle. The 6’11 big man only needed one summer league game to show off his spectacular athleticism and skill set improvements that should have Minnesota fans very excited for his sophomore season. Beringer runs the floor incredibly well for a center, and he has crazy bounce when he gets near the rim. It feels like a lock that he’s going to have a few of the NBA’s most impressive dunks this season, but his shot-blocking will be just as valuable backing up Rudy Gobert. The most surprising thing about his summer league performance might be the development of his handle: he looked comfortable attacking off the dribble far away from the hoop, showing good footwork and enough ball control to get to the basket. The Wolves need some big bodies to help protect Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball this season, and Beringer is showing he can be a contributor.
Tre Johnson, G, Washington Wizards
The Wizards vs. Jazz opener in Las Vegas was hyped as the first meeting between A.J. Dybantsa and Darryn Peterson, but Johnson was the best player on the floor. The No. 6 overall pick from the 2025 draft showed what he could do in a high-usage role, splashing shots from deep, attacking off the dribble, and keeping constant pressure on the opposing defense with his gravity. Johnson’s ability to self-create threes off the dribble is going to be huge for his scoring utility as teams load up to stop Dybantsa, Trae Young, and Anthony Davis. If you crowd his dribble, Johnson has the quickness and the handle needed to beat his man to the cup and get the defense rotating. His playmaking and defense still needs some work, but he should take a step up after a decent rookie year in Washington.
Khaman Maluach, C, Phoenix Suns
Khaman Maluach's second straight double-double in Vegas
Maluach essentially got a redshirt in his rookie season in Phoenix, but the No. 10 pick in the 2025 draft seems poised for a breakthrough this year. The former Duke center is absolutely gigantic at nearly 7’1 barefoot, 252 pounds, with a nearly 7’7 wingspan and 9’6 standing reach, and he looked like a man amongst boys in summer league. It’s impossible to keep Maluach out of deep post position on offense, and all it takes is a quick turn to the basket for him to be in position to dunk the ball. His length is even more effective on the defensive end, and he looked quicker to the ball with his ground coverage in Las Vegas. The thing that makes Maluach really exciting is his potential to shoot threes, and he continues to take and make them in summer league. His hands and passing are still a question offensively, but Maluach is so big with a rapidly rising skill level that he still has tons of upside for the Suns even after a quiet rookie year.
Cedric Coward, F, Memphis Grizzlies
Coward solidified his meteoric rise from DIII to lottery pick in his first season in the NBA by earning All-Rookie First-Team honors. The No. 11 overall pick in the 2025 draft is a long (7’2 wingspan) and strong swingman who locks down on the defensive end, shoots an easy ball from three, and adds value as a rebounder. It would have been easy for Coward to skip summer league after such a strong rookie year as a soon-to-be 23-year-old, but instead there he was defending full court, crashing the glass, and trying to add new elements to his game with pull-up threes. Coward feels like the perfect connective tissue between Cameron Boozer and Zach Edey in the Memphis frontcourt, and these early reps playing with Boozer could help jumpstart their chemistry next season. Memphis’ rebuild already looks promising, and Coward is a big part of it.
Maxime Raynaud, C, Sacramento Kings
Raynaud might have been the best second-round pick of last year’s draft, going from the No. 42 overall selection to All-Rookie Second-Team honors for the Sacramento Kings. The Stanford product has a diverse offensive game with impressive post moves inside, an easy shooting stroke from three, and the ability to make plays for teammates in dribble-handoff actions. He should be a true stretch five in time, but he needs to up his volume from behind the arc, and that shouldn’t be a problem after he again showed off his deep touch in Las Vegas. The real questions for Raynaud come on the defensive end, where he’s just not a very strong rim protector. The Kings are going to need to find playmaking defensive wings to insulate Raynaud on that end of the floor, but his offensive game is good enough to demand minutes for a Sacramento team that continues to rebuild.
Bruce Thornton has us acting like Bart Simpson at a whiteboard:
“I will not overreact to Summer League. I will not overreact to Summer League. I will not…”.
OK, fine: I might overreact to Summer League. Through two games, Thornton is averaging 22.0 points, 4.5 assists, and 4.0 steals in two games.
Sure, he’s shooting 37.1% from deep. That’s where we should – you guessed it – not overreact to Summer League. He’s had one efficient game, and one inefficient one.
Bruce Thornton will not be the Houston Rockets’ starting point guard in 2026-27. That’s obvious. Still, he may be forcing his way into the rotational conversation. It raises a larger question:
What is the team’s point guard rotation even going to look like?
Rockets point guard rotation worth keeping an eye on
Fred VanVleet is the presumptive starter, but whether he’ll be the player he used to be is an article in itself:
And wouldn’t you know it, I already wrote it.
That was before VanVleet gave an interview and explained, in medical language, that his knee had kabloomed into a bazillion pieces. He’ll likely be on the floor when the opening buzzer sounds for the 2026-27 season, but his grip on the starting position feels tenuous.
The obvious heir to his throne would be Reed Sheppard, but Ime Udoka could have other plans. Whatever you think of Udoka’s defensive leanings, he may have a point.
If you’re deep enough into Rockets lore, you’ve probably seen the DataBallr stats. When Sheppard shares the floor with Alperen Sengun and without Amen Thompson, the Rockets are -3.9. With all three on the floor, they’re just +0.3. When Sheppard is with Thompson and without Sengun, they’re +12.4, and when he’s without either of his star teammates, the Rockets are +14.5.
The prevailing assumption is that Sheppard and Sengun can’t defend together. That’s not actually what the data shows, as it’s their Offensive Rating that drops. Still, this could be a case of noisy numbers. The broader point would be that, as of now, Sheppard and Sengun, for whatever reason, don’t seem to mix.
The Rockets were a jarring -9.7 when Sengun was without either Thompson or Sheppard, so maybe he’s the root of the problem. In any case, he’ll be the starting center for game one, even if we can’t speak to Game 42.
So maybe Marcus Smart is the best option.
There’s a bit of an uncomfortable tension (understatement) surrounding the conversation about Sengun. His most devout followers will tell you that he needed a quality point guard in 2025-26, and that’s why he had a bit of a rough season.
Only, he was less efficient around the rim next to Fred VanVleet the year prior. More broadly, if Sengun is a play-finishing big who needs a star point guard to succeed, what’s his purpose? Isn’t he the star playmaker? If he’s a star player, shouldn’t he thrive next to a floor spacer who can make a simple entry pass without activating him in the pick-and-roll?
Smart meets the criteria. If Sengun can’t succeed with him, there are bigger conversations to have about his viability as a star player. He’s also the perfect point-of-attack defender to offset his limitations on that end of the floor:
Should he be the starter in 2026-27?
Rockets must explore all backcourt options
It’s going to be a committee, and that’s perfectly fine.
VanVleet has earned the initial nod. The Rockets should see who he is in 2026-27 before making systemic changes.
If he isn’t the man he used to be, it’s fair to assume Smart is next in line. It’s probably more optimal to maximize the minutes Sheppard spends piloting the second unit. His minutes will ideally increase in 2026-27, but a higher spike in his usage would be more significant.
If he’s wildly successful in that role, he should be starting by the end of the year. Sheppard is, above all else, confounding. One would like the third overall pick to be starting at the beginning of his third season, but painful as it is to accept, Sheppard is a tremendous defensive liability. He’ll likely have to be a top 5 shooter in the NBA to be worth starting, so that’s the bar he should be looking to clear with the second unit to begin the season.
If VanVleet is good to go, or Sheppard breaks out, it shouldn’t affect Smart too much. He’s probably a natural two, and he can even play the three. Smart can get in where he fits in.
Then, there’s Thornton. Pencil him in for the Aaron Holiday role – for now. With his unique weight and strength for his height, Thornton plays bigger than 6’1″. By the end of the year, he may be making a case for a bigger role in 2027-28:
Although we’ve only seen him in two Summer League games so far.
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Lowry’s legacy is bigger than himself, and every basketball fan should know that
7. 7. is for #7
Kyle Lowry calls it a career, and he couldn’t have asked for a better ending to it. The franchise legend signed a one-day contract with the Toronto Raptors seven days ago, capping off a storied career in the most poetic way possible. His resume speaks for itself. Lowry is the franchise leader for assists, steals, triple-doubles, and three-point field goals, and to top it off, he’s a champion.
Despite his accolades, some fans think that he still falls short of the highest recognition in basketball — a Naismith Hall of Fame induction. A netizen commented on X, “Not quite an NBA Hall of Famer but a Raptors legend,” while another fan stated, “He’s not a HoF, but he’s a hell of a ball player,” on a video clip from Sportsnet where Lowry is greeted by a round of applause as he bids farewell in the ceremony.
Discussions like these may feel reductive for a Raptors great among Toronto fans, but comments such as these also subtly indicate what it is that makes us consider him a potential Hall-of-Famer that others may overlook.
Vince put Toronto on the map, but Lowry elevated them to a winning territory
The 2010s saw a mediocre expansion team become the fourth-winningest franchise in the decade, and Lowry was an instrumental piece to that turnaround. In hindsight, no one saw this coming. The Raptors were just four seasons removed from their last playoff contention in 2008. Their star power forward, Chris Bosh, left in free agency to join the superteam in Miami. The Raptors thought they had found a franchise saviour in Bosh — someone who could finally get them over the hump, especially after Vince Carter left on estranged terms.
Carter was the Raptors’ first superstar. He and a rookie Tracy McGrady filled the seats not just in Toronto, but in visiting cities as well because of their high-flying dunks and electrifying playing style. During his stint, however, the Raptors didn’t see much post-season success, with the second round being the farthest they have gotten. Vinsanity made the Raptors a spectacle, which barely translated into winning basketball.
Fast forward to the 2012 off-season, and the Raptors took a chance on a journeyman guard whose reputation shadowed his upside. Lowry got traded from the Houston Rockets after growing frustrated with his backup role. Lowry’s growing pains persisted for a while, as he tried to get used to head coach Dwane Casey’s system while playing second-fiddle to Jose Calderon. Instead of allowing himself to stunt, Lowry brought the same defining characteristic he had to practice to win the starting job — his tenacity.
Coach Casey recalled, “Kyle would come in on a mission every day in practice and kick Jose’s butt… Kyle was on a mission to prove that ‘hey, I’m better than Jose Calderon,’ which it turned out he was, and the rest is history.” The following season, the Raptors secured a postseason berth for the first time since 2008. The Raptors have made the playoffs in each of the next six years, but the same critique always stuck with this team, especially Lowry — the inability to deliver when games finally matter.
The height of his slump came against the Washington Wizards in the 2015 playoffs. Despite holding home-court advantage, the Raptors got swept by the Wizards. Lowry was held to a playoff-low 12.3 points on a 31.6 per cent shooting from the field and 21.7 per cent from deep. Lowry also faced major criticism after his 0-point performance in the playoff opener against the Orlando Magic in the 2019 playoffs.
Reducing Lowry based on these playoff woes discredits the improvements he has made to be able to contribute to a winning team. In his postseason appearances with the Raptors, he averaged 17.1 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 4.8 assists, with consistent shooting percentages across three levels. In the biggest game of his career, Lowry put up 15 points on 5-6 shooting (a perfect 4-4 from three) to build a sizeable advantage for the Raptors in the first frame, setting the tone for the title-clinching game of the 2019 NBA Finals.
Lowry was never the 1A on the Raptors, but for many, he’s the greatest to have ever worn their colours. Lowry understood his role on the floor — a point guard who sets plays for teammates to put them in the best possible position to score. While scoring is not his main priority, he also has a knack for it when the defence allows him. On the other end, Lowry took on a scrappy, “bulldog” persona, and Raptors fans know this play all too well. Lowry was willing to put his body on the line to draw charges, and Toronto came to embrace him for it. As great as he is on the floor, his body of work transcended his playing career. His teammates, past and present, reflect the legacy Lowry has had as a basketball player, as they continue to grow in their respective careers.
“Those guys are my little brothers (…) they’re making me proud every single day”
When asked about getting the chance to play with eventual stars, Lowry credited their work ethic and expressed his delight at seeing them flourish on the court. “They worked hard (…), but those guys were [also] talented, and they wanted it,” said Lowry. Norman Powell, Pascal Siakam, and Fred VanVleet were all named All-Stars at some point in their careers. While not having earned an All-Star nod himself, OG Anunoby is the only 2x champion from that crop. While known for his team-first mentality, Lowry was not shy about taking responsibility in player development, considering the work ethic he and former running-mate DeMar DeRozan displayed on the court.
A place in basketball history
NBA history wouldn’t be complete without each of the 30 teams that have competed for the past 75 years. For the Raptors, many chapters have been written about them. From its early years with Vince, to being stuck in mediocrity, to finally bringing a title back to the country where basketball was invented, Toronto always has its place in basketball history.
During the press conference, GM Bobby Webster announced that number seven will be hung in the rafters, immortalizing the career and legacy of arguably the Greatest Raptor of All-Time. While his name doesn’t scream the likes of Vince Carter, Kawhi Leonard, or even his former teammate, DeRozan, Lowry made the Raptors a winning franchise, not as its alpha, but as an impactful player who settled for a role that his team needed him to fill. Through his strong work ethic, Lowry also inspired a crop of would-be stars, who continue to prosper with their respective teams.
His story does not belong to just Raptors fans. Lowry left an indelible mark on Raptors history. For that, he deserves to be memorialized in the Hall of Fame.
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The Summer Sixers have gotten off to a hot start in the desert, winning their first two games against Detroit and Indiana. Two more wins and they’ll be on their way to the Summer League semifinals, in search of the organization’s first Summer League title since Hollis Thompson and Casper Ware were doing their thing in Orlando back in 2014.
Encouragingly in the big picture sense, this squad’s success has been led by the two Sixers under standard NBA contracts. Rookie guard Labaron Philon has averaged 21.0 points and 6.5 assists across the two games, and despite some inefficiencies inside the arc, is very much looking the part of a three-level scorer. Meanwhile, second-year big man Johni Broome is also averaging 21.0 points per game, along with 12.0 rebounds and 1.5 blocks. I understand the notion of wanting to see Broome do it against NBA-level competition, but you can only play the opponent in front of you, so it’s at least an encouraging sign for a better sophomore season from the 2025 35th overall pick.
The Houston Rockets are 1-1 in Las Vegas, topping Denver in their opener before losing to the Raptors. Here’s a look at Houston’s group for Summer League action:
Bruce Thornton is a guy to keep an eye on this afternoon. The 31st overall pick out of Ohio State exploded for 27 points in the opener against Denver, and chipped in 17 points and five steals against the Raptors. 6-foot-6 guard Quadir Copeland is on a two-way contract with Houston after going undrafted out of NC State.
We’ve seen a pair of entertaining games so far from the Summer Sixers. Let’s hope TJ Dileo has the guys ready to play once again to keep the undefeated stretch in Vegas intact.
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While the official start to offseason free agency is less than a month old, teams are beginning to slow down with their roster maneuvering after a flurry of opening-week moves. With the dust settling, the team dove into the Pistons’ offseason so far.
1. The offseason is far from over, but it seems the Pistons’ offseason is near completion. Where do you think the Jalen Duren negotiations land?
Brady Fredericksen: I don’t see a world where he isn’t back. The FO likes him, Cade Cunningham likes him — it’s going to come together… just not as Duren or his agent envisioned. I’m guessing he lands a deal in the $35 million a year range over 3-4 years, which is likely $10-15 million less than he wants and more than the Pistons want to pay him. I could see him talking a shorter deal to get another swing at that max-level contract sooner, though.
Wes Davenport: I’ll guess a 4-year, $150M deal with a player option at the end of it. At this point, I just can’t imagine he turns down a contract to take the QO, so his camp pushes for a player option to save face.
Justin Lambregetse: The Pistons will split the difference with Jalen Duren and come to an agreement on a contract for $40 million a year in the next week or two. I don’t think they let this drag out into August.
Robbie Bettelon: He gets 5-years, $180 million. It’s basically the same total any other team can offer him ($177m), but over five years instead of four. This feels like a fair middle ground ($36m AAV) for both sides.
Brennan Sims: He’ll be back in Detroit on an Alperen Şengün-type deal ($185M/5Y). Maybe even a little less. I don’t see another ending to this story. Duren was phenomenal in the regular season, but the playoff woes were enough to pump the super-max brakes, especially in the second apron era.
Austin Flores: The Pistons probably want to keep it close to $30 million annually, and I think that would be fair given the totality of last season for Duren. There are only a select few big men in the league who are really worth a significant percentage of a team’s cap, and we’ve seen several teams make the mistake of overpaying bigs that don’t fit that mold. That’s not to say Duren isn’t a contributor to winning and can’t get better at 22, but with his limitations as a creator on offense, it’s hard to justify.
Max Sturm: I think they land somewhere in the middle, like others have said. The Pistons have some things going for them here. There doesn’t seem to be any other serious suitors for Duren at this stage in the game. The second apron continues to spook teams into making large commitments to guys who aren’t top 15 players. If Boston wanted out of the Jaylen Brown business, why would they want to turn around and max Duren? People forget that restricted free agency often goes into the late summer. I’m not sweating this…yet.
2. What is your favorite move this offseason and least favorite (or lack thereof) move?
Brady: Isaiah Joe is my favorite add by far. He’s one of the great shooters in the NBA, and we saw how valuable those types are. OKC and Philly were both oodles better with him on the floor. He’s a winner. The Pistons’ spacing was a hell of a lot better when they had two 3-point aces in Malik Beasley + Tim Hardaway Jr. As for my least favorite move, it’s related: the lack of an established, off-the-bounce scorer. Joe fills a big need, but I’m not ready to give the keys to Ebuka Okorie as the other outside scorer/creator yet.
Wes: My favorite move is probably the rookie, Okorie. We had Stephen Gillaspie on the Pindown before the draft, and he really solidified my already high opinion of Okorie. He has a high ceiling and offers something the Pistons plainly do not have — the ability to create a half-court paint touch at will in isolation. My least favorite would have to be losing Tobias Harris to the Spurs. Both because I’ll miss Harris’s game and locker room leadership, and because he went to the Spurs.
Justin: I really love the Joe trade. I think he’s better and cheaper than any shooter the Pistons could have gotten on the market this year, and only trading 2 seconds is not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Robbie: My favorite move is getting Joe for two seconds as I expect him to start and have a career year next to Cad. I also enjoy the archetype of John Collins at power forward for this team over the Tobias archetype, but I have some frontcourt depth concerns. One Jalen Duren sprained ankle means a center rotation of Paul Reed and Tolu Smith with no true backup PF.
Brennan: It hurts to lose Tobias from a shot-making and leadership perspective, but Collins is more comfortable sitting in the corner acting as a spacer. That could help the offense and clear the lane a bit for the core three. He’ll need to up his volume and remain efficient from deep to be a true spacer, but the pickup is interesting. He’s a great lob threat for Cade when he does cut. Detroit hasn’t addressed the creation hole on their team in a major way. Maybe Okorie can prove that wrong.
Austin: We may look back at gaining Joe for just 2 second round picks as one of the bigger steals Detroit has made in a while. I think he has a lot more to give than what he showed in OKC, and that’s probably not a secret. He certainly fills a much-needed role for this team in the short term, with potential for maybe being a part of larger plans if things break right for him. But for next season, Joe undoubtedly makes them better.
Max: My favorite move by far was the Joe trade. For the first time since drafting Çade, the Pistons can surround him with 2-3 elite shooters in each lineup. This team can trot out lineups like the ones the Cavs and Lakers surrounded prime LeBron with. Cade has shown he is that special. Losing Isaiah Stewart stings, as he was a massive part of the culture shift and defensive identity in Detroit. With Ausar Thompson, Ron Holland and Daniss Jenkins sticking around, plus J.B. Bickerstaff still manning the sidelines, there should still be enough there for this team to be a top 10 defense.
3. Assume the Duren situation plays out how you expect, grade Trajan Langdon’s third offseason in Detroit.
Brady: The lack of a real difference-making addition puts me at about a C-minus. The whole thing is “I guess.” I wanted more this summer and, though I’m not oblivious to the circumstances around a lot of their reported targets, I just don’t think the team is better suited to win the East. It’s about what it was last year, except it makes more sense offensively. The lack of a true sidekick scorer outside for Cade is glaring, and their status in a much-improved East will make for an extremely interesting trade deadline.
Wes: C-plus, expectations are a b****. If you told me, when the season ended, this would be the offseason, I would have been happy, though bummed to lose Harris and Stew. But as the rumors started to swirl, from Herro to Kawhi to Murphy III and even Reaves, the idea of that big swing became more tantalizing. Ultimately, the price was too high. That bit of disappointment from what could have been holds back a stronger grade.
Justin: I’d give him a B. I like going all in on adding shooting if the price for getting a secondary creator is too much. I like the John Collins signing in a vacuum, but losing Tobias in the process does worry me a bit. Add that on to also losing Stew and you are really banking on Cade and Ausar (and Duren) to take on the mantle as the culture setters. I think they are ready for it and will all get better, but not being able to get a secondary creator does leave me worried come playoff time.
Robbie: I’ll give this offseason a B-minus. I was hoping Murphy III was going to be the prize catch this summer, but the idea of getting a bunch of 40% three-point shooters to surround Cade/Ausar/Duren has grown on me. This roster seems constructed to give additional playmaking duties to Ausar and Duren in the starting lineup while being able to make that bigger move at February’s deadline. I’m on board for seeing how Detroit’s Big 3 operate with the most spacing they’ve had yet.
Brennan: A solid B seems fine. Detroit needs shooting and creating around their superstar. Joe, Taurean Prince and Collins were good shooting additions, and Duncan Robinson should be back next year. You wanted to see Detroit snag a more established creator, but there weren’t a ton of guys available and willing to come to Detroit who fit that bill. Murphy III was supposedly available, but the Pelicans’ asking price was a bit rich. I understand the hesitancy.
Austin: If a Duren (and possibly Ausar) signing is truly the end of this offseason, I’ll give it a C-. It’s been reported that Langdon tried to get Cade as his running mate but fell short of his top options. At this point, it makes sense to play out the first half of the season and try to get a Robin during the deadline when the asking price is lower. But even with some of the additions I like, they not only missed out on finding a secondary scorer but also lost their best one from last season in Tobias. Collins brings a unique skillset, but he’s not the type of player you can run an offense through like we saw with Harris in the playoffs. Not to mention losing their best front-court defender, and did nothing to really supplement that. They improved in some areas like shooting, but if Detroit doesn’t at least find a serviceable/seasoned player to get buckets before the season starts, I’d be concerned.
Max: I’ll give them a B-. The team got loads of shooting around Cunningham, which should help them maximize his skill set. But this iteration has less secondary creation and scoring than last year’s team did, and that is a major concern. It’s been rumored that the team went after Kevin Durant and Murphy III, but it ultimately takes two to tango, and Langdon can’t be faulted there. If Ausar shows that he can consistently do more with the ball in his hands or Jenkins takes a step as a scorer/creator, maybe this turns into a B+ or A-. But as it stands, losing Tobias hurts as he was the only other guy who could routinely get his own shot beyond Cade. I’d love to know who Detroit was bidding against for Kevin Huerter’s services. I would have much rather seen the team bring back Luke Kennard or Tim Hardwaway, Jr. as both inked shorter and cheaper deals than Huerter. That move alone makes a B feel generous.
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As always, play along and let us know your thoughts in the comments!
1. The offseason is far from over, but it seems the Pistons’ offseason is near completion. Where do you think the Jalen Duren negotiations land?
2. What is your favorite move this offseason and least favorite (or lack thereof) move?
3. Assume the Duren situation plays out how you expect, grade Trajan Langdon’s third offseason in Detroit.