
Welcome to Inside the Suns, a deep-dive analysis of the current Phoenix Suns team in which the Fantable — a roundtable of Bright Siders — give their takes on the Suns’ latest issues and news.
Fantable Questions of the Week
Q1: There are many fans who believe the Suns should start Collin Gillespie and move Jalen Green to the bench to be the team’s 6th man. What’s your opinion?
zenzino: Wait and see is my opinion. My guess is that Green will at least begin the season as a starter and they make adjustments as needed. I’m trusting the process.
I know fans are desperate for a point guard alongside Book. But CG isn’t that type of playmaking point guard. Very few of those types of point guards even exist anymore. Luka, SGA, Steph, Murray, and Fox are all “point guards” in the league. Old heads would definitely call those guys shooting guards.
I actually like CG coming off the bench. He always comes out with energy and can get going at any time. We know for a fact that Green plays better when he gets going early. Why put him at a disadvantage?
PHNX Suns podcast had an interesting idea: With the Clippers in disarray, and the fact that Ty Lue is on record as a huge Jalen Green fan, maybe the Suns can work a trade for Darius Garland. Too bad they gave up their 2031 pick. That would be pretty attractive to the Cheats (Clips), and Garland is the right kind of point guard to put next to Book.
Ashton: This has been hashed and rehashed in the comment sections for months. Adding in the recent poll with player SunsRank based on tiers, a surprising number of commentators placed CG in the tier one “cornerstone” category.
I am sorry, but what? Sure, it is a good thought experiment to maybe start CG alongside Book for Summer League. Or even better, let’s see how CG operates the offense alongside Green while Book plays the sixth man and sells colorways from his car trunk in his free time. If you haven’t paid attention, Nike stock has severely tanked since last year (like a certain mortgage company), so this might be the best time to get his signature colorways to the market.
But common all, you don’t sit a 36-million-dollar player on the bench to play the sixth man role. It is critically important that Booker and Green develop synergy and flow with their court play through more minutes together. If it fails because Green is not actually a PG (or Book)? Okay, let’s rehash the CG as a starter conversation again.
OldAz: I should be rich, famous, and running a Fortune 500 company, as long as we are discussing things that will never happen. I understand the sentiment behind this, as it keeps Booker locked into his more natural shooting guard position, which is probably the biggest single thing the Suns can do to improve their chances of winning. But the reality is that this one thing is not enough to sustain winning game after game anyway. Also, it ignores the bigger factor…that Green is still a far superior player overall than Collin, and in the NBA that matters a lot when it comes to starting and finishing games. Maybe too much, to be honest, which is partly what fuels this sentiment.
In reality, Book should only play about 30 minutes a game, same with Green (maybe a little less coming off injury), and Gillespie should be in that same range. That’s 80-90 minutes combined for 3 players in a 48-minute game. Â For those math-challenged, that’s 80-90 of the 96 minutes accounted for. If somehow all of Booker’s minutes were with Collin on the floor, then there would only be 18 minutes or so left for Green (so he’s not playing enough) and no one of similar quality to play with. And, just like Book, he needs minutes with a true PG on the floor, which would also benefit Green in many of the same ways.
Accordingly, to me it’s not a question of who starts (or even who finishes, which should 100% depend on matchups and who is playing well in that game). It is really about rotations and minutes distribution. Hey Jalen and Book, you are both starting, but we will probably be subbing out one of you for Collin at the 5-minute mark depending on who has it rolling. This seems like a far greater strategy to me. Then, by the end of the game, Book and Collin have been on the floor about 12-15 minutes together, Green and Collin have been on the floor about 12-15 minutes together, and Book and Green have been on the floor 10-15 minutes together, with perhaps some additional minutes here and there where Book or Green are with a different backup guard. In this scenario, who cares who starts?
There, I just belched out a bunch of words about a topic that’s not likely to happen and probably doesn’t make much difference even if it did.
Rod: I’m not really against that idea but unless Gillespie by far outplays Green in training camp and the preseason games, I wouldn’t start the season that way. With both Green and Book missing significant time due to injuries, that backcourt combo hardly had a chance to play together, and I still want to see how it will work out this season. If it doesn’t work well, there will be plenty of time to make changes during the season.
I also think that Ott’s play rotation schemes will be more important than who actually starts. His being flexible with his substitutions should be more of a key to winning than the starting lineup.
Q2: Sam Quinn of CBS Sports recently ranked the Suns front office as the 4th worst in the NBA. What are your thoughts on this?
zenzino: I put CBS Sports in the same category as ESPN as far as their thoughts and opinions. Pretty irrelevant.
Clearly, the writer is a Nets fan. 11 spots higher than the Suns? Bring in Harden when they already had Kyrie, and then trade him for Ben Simmons half a season later? What are they even doing there besides wasting all the draft capital they acquired on really, really stupid picks? The Suns got back into the playoffs, and the Nets are still chasing their tails in the basement.
The Clippers 10 spots higher? Let’s shelve the cheating for a minute. Even without the 5 picks they lost, they still essentially paid 5 firsts, 2 swaps, and a 2-time MVP for Kawhi to take them to a single Conference Final in seven seasons and get beat by the Suns.
I get it, it’s going to take more than one season of alignment to erase the “swing for the fences” that went terribly wrong. And the FO deserves a ton of condemnation for the Bradley Beal trade, which is inexcusable given it happened after the new CBA. Not to mention 3 head coaches in 3 years.
This season brought some much-needed continuity but also an eyebrow-raising trade for Miles Bridges. I’m on record as not being a huge fan of this trade. I alluded to in the previous question: what if the Suns still had that first-round pick to dangle in front of whoever is going to run the Clippers for Garland?
However, I think Bridges is an underrated passer and playmaker. Time will tell. I am hopeful that it will work out.
Two years ago, 4th from the bottom would have been about right. While I still think they are in the bottom half of the class, they are climbing. If they make it into the playoffs (without going through the play-in) this season, they climb into the top half.
Ashton: I am assuming the link will be included in this question, and it is worth reading. CBS Sports can be scathing or misguided in its analysis, but I generally like Sam Quinn’s takes. In this case, I agree with the writer.
While being very detailed on topics that I will not cover here, it does require that fans zoom out to see the whole picture. Taken as a whole, there have been some really bad decisions. Is the Suns FO doing okay on the fringes? Sure. But MI’s swing-and-miss rosters are just horrendous. So bad that the Suns were only the fifth-worst FO last year. I guess there are not a lot of pundits who are fans of the Mile Bridges trade.
Again, if you want to start your day off in a bad mood, read the piece.
OldAz: I read the article. I challenge you to go read the article (if you haven’t yet) and then come back and tell me any specific thing they got wrong about the Suns. Even if you support many of the moves they have made, or have patience with their overall plan, that write-up was immensely fair.
My only quibble was the article still claiming KD was a top 5 talent when the Suns traded for him, without providing any actual, non-emotion-based evidence. He was certainly great and more talented than many others on the floor, but he was also well past his prime and not at all worth what they gave up in players and certainly not in players plus draft capital; but that kinda reinforces the article’s point, even though most of that front office was different.
The article does rightly praise many of the Suns’ moves, but is 100% right in calling out their asset management and throwing away draft capital time and again, trying to patch up the boat and keep it afloat a little while longer. I hope it all works out, but from a front office standpoint, that article seemed to be spot on and fair to me. Somebody get some duct tape for Ishbia and change the locks to the basketball operations building, and maybe reevaluate them in a few years because they have been trying to catch up ever since that Herschel Walker-style KD trade.
Rod: I really don’t agree with his conclusion…unless you’re including Mat Ishbia as part of the front office. I believe Brian Gregory has done a fine job, considering the situation he’s in. Ishbia has bluntly stated that the Suns will do their best to be a competitive team. That forces Gregory and his staff to focus on short-term improvements rather than working on a full-blown, long-term rebuild plan.
While I consider some of his moves “questionable” (such as the trade for Miles Bridges), the overall direction in which Gregory and the FO are headed is one they were directed to take by Ishbia. In that context, I certainly wouldn’t rate the Suns’ front office this badly.
Q3: What are your thoughts on this quote from Kevin Durant on what he thought went wrong during his time in Phoenix: “I feel as though we were an older group who kind of stuck in our ways as veterans, and veterans kind of like do their own thing a lot.”
zenzino: That probably goes for the coaches as well as the players.
Man, everyone has opinions on this (most of them colored by sour grapes), yet none of us were in the locker room or on the planes. This “locker room cancer” narrative is full-on conjecture and speculation. KD wasn’t the problem in Brooklyn. He wasn’t a problem in GS. He wasn’t a problem in OKC. And Houston…Udoka isn’t known for his smooth ways.
I’m not saying KD is an upstanding team leader. He’s not. He’s a man-child who just wants to hoop and play video games (and troll on social media).
Budenholzer was a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad coach for the Suns. Imagine if BG, Ott, and the alignment had come a season earlier. BG and Ott probably could have done great things with that roster (terrible things but great).
I don’t think it had much to do with them being “older veterans”.
In a leadership vacuum, everyone just does their own thing. The HC wasn’t leading. KD isn’t a team leader; never has been. Never will be. Book is a floor leader but not a vocal locker room leader. Beal seemed to be too busy worrying about himself. Everyone else was just along for the ride.
That would never happen in the Brian Gregory era.
Ashton: I have tuned out KD for a while now, but I truly doubt his sincerity in this statement. Is this a backhanded apology that is really fostering partial blame on the other veterans? Houston, I suspect you will have a problem when it comes to the locker room dynamics. How many coaches did the Suns cycle through? KD could have just simplified that statement with “I was stuck in my ways”.
At least John Voita does not have to worry about being blocked by KD’s Twitter account anymore. As for me? I have already blocked KD out of my head.
OldAz: I feel like that is the most introspective, honest, and least self-serving thing I’ve ever heard that man say. There must be some missing context where he blames anyone else because that’s the closest I have heard to him taking at least some personal accountability for how things worked (or didn’t work) here.
His first half-season, where he got hurt and really never got time to gel with Monty and the team, was their best chance at winning, but that is partially because they didn’t have time for what KD’s answer touches on to really set in. Once they had an off-season and that laid-back “unbothered” attitude took hold, the rot and stink quickly followed as unbothered became uninterested and entitled and just plain boring, bad basketball. That has never described Booker: before the Suns got CP3, during their high points, or since KD has left.
I guess only some veterans “do their own thing” to that extent, but then again it was probably someone else’s responsibility to fix it in the moment, and certainly not appropriate for the fans to point out by booing how boring it is to watch veterans just “do their own thing” instead of playing connected as a team.
Whew – I sure am glad that era of Suns basketball is in the past, and a little bit encouraged by one soundbite that at least looks like belated accountability.
Rod: I’ve got to give him credit for not trying to dodge any of the responsibility for the Suns’ failure back then…and for not pointing fingers at others who I think played a big part in that failure. Jones built a flawed team, Ishbia went along with it (if not actually orchestrating it) and Budenholzer really didn’t seem to do much to try and actually control things. There’s plenty of blame to go around for the KD era crash and burn.
As always, many thanks to our Fantable members for all their extra effort this week!
Suns Trivia/History
On September 6, 1977, the Suns acquired point guard Don Buse from the Indiana Pacers for Ricky Sobers. Buse would miss just one game in three seasons for Phoenix while averaging 8.0 points, 4.4 assists, and 1.9 steals per game. In 1979, he helped take the Suns deep into the playoffs before losing 4-3 in the Western Conference Finals to the Seattle Supersonics, who went on to win the NBA Finals 4-1 against the Washington Bullets. Buse is still 3rd on the Suns’ All-Time list for career steals per game with 1.93 per game.
On September 7, 2004, the Suns signed super-speedy Summer League standout and Japanese-born PG Yuta Tabuse. Yuta was in Dallas’ training camp before being cut and was with Denver in the preseason in 2003 before signing with the ABA’s Long Beach Jam, where he averaged 5.3 pts and 6.3 asts in 2003. He scored seven points in his first NBA game against the Atlanta Hawks on November 3, 2004, becoming on that day the first Japanese player ever to play in an NBA regular-season game.
He was later waived by the Suns on December 16, 2004, after playing in just four games, averaging 1.8 pts, 1.0 rebs, and 0.8 asts in 4.3 minutes per game. Suns assistant coach Marc Iavaroni said of Tabuse, “I liked his energy, I liked his courage.”
Tabuse would eventually return to Japan, where he continued to play professionally until 2018 and played on two Japanese League Championship teams, winning Finals MVP honors in 2010.
Important Future Dates
Sept. 28 – Media Day
Sept. 29 – Training Camp opens
Oct. 5 – Suns @ Pistons (preseason) 4:00 PM
Oct. 7 – Suns @ Bulls (preseason) 5:00 PM
Oct. 10 – Suns vs. Spurs (preseason) 7:00 PM
Oct. 14 – Suns @ Spurs (preseason) 5:00 PM
Oct. 16 – Suns vs. Jazz (preseason) 7:00 PM
Oct. 20 – 2026-27 NBA Season Begins
Dec. 15 – Most players signed to new contracts can be traded
Jan. 5 – 10-day contracts may now be signed
Jan. 10 – All NBA contracts are guaranteed for the remainder of the season
Jan. 15 – All players signed to new contracts can be traded
Feb. 11 – Trade Deadline
Feb. 19-21 – NBA All-Star 2027































