
Back in early September, we asked Purple Rowers to tell us the stories they wanted to read, and we got some great suggestions. Among those questions was this one from DaveN5280:
While this probably falls into the “playing time distribution” category, I’m pretty sure a lot of us here on PR want to know where all those lineup construction and late-inning PH decisions are coming from. Is it just old-school “lefty-righty” kinda stuff from Schaef and the bench coach or hitting coach? Or is it coming from real data provided by the analytics dept and/or GM—level direction to always “optimize the situation?” And is there any awareness of how these decisions in the 6th/7th innings affect the game situation in the 8th/9th?
Or maybe that’s a deeper dive that should be covered in an off-season story 🤷♂️
I don’t know how many people know this, but Colorado Rockies manager Warren Schaeffer is a chess enthusiast — he loves strategy. (In fact, Schaeffer and CJ Cron used to play regularly.) I share this because I was thinking about his chess background while listening to his rationale for the line ups he constructs.
When I asked this question, on Saturday, September 5, the Rockies had lost to the St. Louis Cardinals the night before. With that game over, Schaeffer was looking to the evening’s game against LHP Matthew Liberatore.
I have decided largely to run this as a transcript — I want you to have a sense of Schaeffer’s thinking — but I have corrected players’ nicknames for clarity’s sake and done some light editing.
Here’s my question: What’s your approach whenever you’re setting up a lineup?
This is Schaeffer’s answer:
It’s multifaceted.
There’s a lot of work and time that gets put into it.
Jake (McCarthy’s) going to lead off. Period. That hasn’t moved. That hasn’t changed in a very long time because he sets the tone. He’s been good against lefties. He doesn’t punch out. When you flip the order over, he can offer thump. He can drive runs in, which you’ve shown that he does.
Then after that, so let’s see here.
Today we’re facing a left-handed pitcher, so that third time through, the left-handed pitcher coming through, which is tough on a pitcher. We all know that. If you match him up with guys that are more likely to do damage against him, which today it’s Connor Norby right-handed, it’s Hunter Goodman right-handed, TJ Rumfield in the four hole, he’s left-handed.
It makes it difficult when you go left, right, right, left for them to match up later in the game.
A lot of the stuff that is constructed, especially in the lower part of the lineup, because Goodman’s going to hit three most days, Rumfield’s going to hit four most days, McCarthy’s going to lead-off most days, Moniak’s going to hit second against a right-handed pitcher, especially at home, because that’s where he does all his damage, and you want him up that third time through against the right-handed pitcher.

The bottom of the lineup is constructed a lot of the time for later-game matchups.
Today, Rumfield’s in the four, Cole Carrigg’s in the five, switch hitter. Jordan Beck is in the six.
So you’ve got right, right, left with Troy Johnston.
Right, right, Adael Amador, Ezequiel Tovar.
This is just being totally open with you.
I had it earlier, where at first I had Amador, Johnston, Tovar, and then I flipped it because I thought it was too easy of a for them to match up with their left-handers in the pen with Johnston hitting there.
So you could go left-hander at Troy, who I’m probably not going to hit for Tovar in the nine, and then left-hander at McCarthy, who I’m not going to hit for, and they get the matchup that they want in that spot. So you try to avoid that as much as you can.
That’s why a lot of our times our our I would say five-through-nine looks different on a daily basis. It’s later game matchups that you’re thinking about.
It’s knowing what the other club does as well and who’s available in their bullpen.
Sometimes you’re wrong. Like last night, I didn’t think that O’Brien was going to come in in the ninth inning. He had thrown back to back against the Los Angeles Dodgers. Long night flight, and he went three in a row for the first time in his career. Good for him, and he was he was nails. But that was something that was different. I wasn’t prepared for it.
Now I wouldn’t have done anything different, but that just it’s a testament to you can plan and plan and plan, and then sometimes it just the game throws itself at you.
MLB.com’s Thomas Harding asked this question: How much of it is information that’s given to you, looking at usage and everything else for the other bullpen. How much of it is gut?
Here’s what Schaeffer said.
When I construct the lineup, both (information and intuition) are in play. You know, for me, it’s hard.
Maybe even if Goodman’s struggling, it’s hard for me to take him out of the three-four hole because he’s a force to be reckoned with at any moment.
You’ll see Moniak not quite as much in the two-hole on the road against right-handed pitching because he’s typically better at home. These are just things that exist. I don’t know. It’s both (information and intuition). I’m having a tough time thinking of like gut stuff that overrides matchup stuff.

Everybody knows who hits and who doesn’t hit.
And you want your guys, typically your better hitters, one through five. That’s it basically.
And I think maybe some people could want to say, “Move McCarthy out of a leadoff spot against left-handed pitching because that spot’s coming around, and you want the right-hander at the top,” but not me. That’s more gut. That’s more gut because there is something to leaving a guy like that in a spot that he’s comfortable with, and he doesn’t even think about it, and he knows he’s earned it, and he does a really good job at it, so it’s good to have that spot covered.
I love talking about lineup construction.
I’ve evolved in my in my thought process on lineups, as well, especially with when you get to the big leagues and the late-game matchups are so important to get, and especially with the way our team is built. We need the best matchups, and we’ve been doing it all year.
And our offense has been really good all year, just in general, compared to the league. And a lot of that is late-game matchups.
You prepare also for where you’re going to pinch hit, and you know who you’re going to pinch hit, and when and where. And the lineup is constructed based on that as well at certain points.
It’s definitely been good because when I was in the minor leagues and old school thought. . . . But old school, people used to say, some teams can be constructed like that, where one through nine, they know. Like the Dodgers, they know one through nine what the order they’re going to be in every night, pretty much, for the most part over the past five years.
And there’s something to that. There’s something to a guy knowing, “I’m going to hit third and play first base every day.”
We’re not built like that. Our team is not built like that. We need matchups.
The Rockies won that game, 10-7. Here’s the box score, so you can judge for yourself how Schaeffer’s line-up strategy went.

Closing thoughts
Obviously, line-up construction doesn’t win a baseball game. Rather, it’s a strategy for maximizing talent.
And as Skyler Timmins showed recently, the Rockies hitting problems are not due to platooning; rather, they are the result of not having enough effective right-handed hitters. As Skyler wrote: “With Goodman and Karros on the Injured List, Freeman in Triple-A, and the other options not exactly thriving on either side of the platoon, it’s showing cracks in the offense. More than ever, the Rockies need better right-handed hitters.”
It’s also easy to see the value of switch hitters given how the Rockies are constructed. Switch hitters give Warren Schaeffer another tool in his strategy arsenal. When Willi Castro is healthy, the Rockies have three of them (and I wondered throughout the Cardinals series if his bat would have made a difference). I expect the Rockies to give Amador serious innings throughout September. If he can hit, they will have found their second base man and solidified another switch hitter in their arsenal.
That’s what I learned. Let us know what you think in the comments!
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