‘We've always wanted him back': Rob Thomson boasts about Kyle Schwarber's return originally appeared on NBC Sports Philadelphia
ORLANDO – He’s back. That’s designated hitter Kyle Schwarber.
He’s extended. That’s manager Rob Thomson.
The slugger and the skipper of the Phillies were rewarded early Tuesday morning, Schwarber with a 5-year, $150 million deal and Thomson with an extension through the 2027 season.
Expected to be the first big signing of the MLB Winter Meetings, Schwarber indeed was and now will be with the Phillies through the 3030 season. In his four years in Philadelphia, this year’s National League runner-up has averaged close to 47 home runs and 109 RBI. Schwarber played in all 162 games this past season and posted career-highs with 56 home runs and 132 RBI.
An unquestionable leader in the clubhouse, Schwarber was offered a reported four-year, close to $120 million deal by the Pittsburgh Pirates earlier in the week. The Baltimore Orioles reportedly offered the same deal as the Phillies, but Schwarber decided to stay put. Others that appeared to want the services of the soon-to-be 33-year-old were the New York Mets, Boston Red Sox, and his hometown Cincinnati Reds.
Aside from the home runs and RBI, Schwarber has improved in each of his seasons with the team as an overall hitter. Consider that during his first two campaigns, Schwarber combined for 40 doubles, 241 hits, struck out 415 times and had a .207 batting average. The past two seasons, those numbers have improved to 45 doubles, 287 hits, 394 strikeouts and a .244 average.
“We’ve always wanted him back,” said Thomson. “He’s so different than most of the guys I’ve ever been around because he’s a great player, one, and he knows how to bring the heartbeat of the clubhouse down when things are going rough. Not only the clubhouse but individuals as well. He’s just a huge part of our ball club. (The fans) love him and I really think that he loves playing in Philadelphia. I really do. He does so much in the community, so much in the clubhouse. There’s more to him than there are a lot of guys cause he just brings a lot to a lot of different people.”
And Schwarber will continue to be until he plays out the last year of this contract at the age of 37. Despite the advanced age, the manager believes that the player who just signed the largest contract for a designated hitter will still be of value.
“I think just his work ethic,” Thomson said. “The body has gotten better over time. He’s in the best shape of his life right now. I don’t think that that’s going to change. He’s so intelligent. He sees the game a little bit different than a lot of other guys. He works at it, watches a lot of film. I think there’s a really good chance that he’s going to maintain this level. This was a really good year for him. I don’t think we can expect this every year. But I still think he’s going to be a high-level performer.”
After a couple of seasons at the leadoff spot, Thomson switched his power-hitter to the two spot, behind leadoff hitter Trea Turner and ahead of Bryce Harper, and it produced the best offensive season for Schwarber. Turner won the National League batting title with a .304 average and 179 hits, while Harper waded through an injury-riddled season posting a .261 average with 27 home runs and 75 RBI.
So, the top third of the lineup is back. Does that mean that Thomson is set on having them in the same spots in the order for the 2026 year? And what if they bring back J.T. Realmuto?
“I’ve got some ideas but I haven’t talked to the players yet, so I don’t want to talk much more about that,” Thomson said. “But I’ve thought long and hard about it.
“There’s going to be some changes even if we sign both those guys back. There’s still going to be some changes. And there might be some change within the lineup as far as the order, which could infuse a little bit of energy. We won 96 games last year, so it’s not like we’re not doing well. We’ve got a good club and no matter what happens we’re still going to have a good club.”
And that is part of the reason Thomson decided to stick around for at least a couple of more seasons. He is only the fourth manager in Major League history to take a team to the playoffs in each of his first four seasons and since taking over in early June of 2022, he has led the team to the second most wins in MLB (346) and second best winning percentage (.580).
“It always comes back, for me, are you having fun, are you enjoying it? Are you getting in somebody’s way? Are you getting in the way of winning? I’m still enjoying it,” said Thomson. “I love the organization. This is the only place I want to go. I don’t want to go anyplace else whenever I’m done because I love the people. And I love the organization from the owner (John Middleton) to Dave (Dombrowski), all our player development people. It’s just a group of people that really come together and want to win baseball games and want to win a championship. And that’s what I love.”
The wheels are still spinning for Dombrowski, Thomson and general manager Preston Mattingly as they not only keep an eye on a potential Realmuto signing, but look for other ways to improve the club. The outfield is of particular interest to the manager.
“I think it can be better, yeah,” said Thomson of the outfield. “We’ve got some ideas and obviously you have to execute those ideas and plans, but I think there’s some good plans in place. Hopefully we can execute it. We can be more productive, but I think the opportunity is there.”
So many plans in place to make sure that somber, tear-filled clubhouse after the season-ending loss to the Los Angeles Dodgers in the Divisional Playoff last season doesn’t return.
“Guys were probably a little bit frustrated that we’ve been there and close and haven’t gotten it done and I think that’s great motivation going into next year,” Thomson said. “I think there’s some frustration there. It was a hard-fought battle. Everybody in that clubhouse felt like last year was the year. So, it was heartbreaking, to tell you the truth.”
Tuesday had to further Thomson a bit from that somber memory with the signing of his foundational player and an extension of his own.
“So far, it’s pretty good. It’s been good,” said Thomson of his Tuesday. “Doing a lot of work in the room up there and trying to figure out where we’re at. It’s one of those things where if you sign this guy, ok, we go this way. If you don’t sign this guy, we’ve got to go that way. As long as you have those plans in place you have to execute it, obviously. But so far, so good.”
NOTES
- Thomson said that he has not spoken to reliever Jose Alvarado, who is back home in Venezuela, but expects the lefty to return to spring training in great shape, as he did last year.
- Thomson said he knows that Harper went through an EBOO procedure to help improve circulation, reduce inflammation, fight infections, support immune function and remove toxins and increase energy, but doesn’t know anything about the procedure.
- Asked about Nick Castellanos, Thomson said: “I haven’t talked to him. I still respect Nick. At the end of the day what he wants to do is play every day and you can’t dog a guy for wanting to play every day.”